[Foundation] continuing the conversation

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at jabber.org
Tue Jul 15 06:06:48 CDT 2003

On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 03:09:16AM -0500, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:

> ## OLD vs. NEW ##
> Some have characterized this discussion as one of stubborn old-timers
> vs. dynamic newcomers. While I don't think that is accurate (some newer
> folks such as Matt Mankins see the value of building on the Jabber 
> "legacy" and some older contributors such as Iain Shigeoka are desirous
> of change), there is a grain of truth here. BTW, I do not consider
> myself a founding member of the Jabber community, since I didn't really
> start contributing until mid-2000. However, I do believe in meritocracy
> and in showing respect for those who have made it possible for us to
> even have this discussion. Obviously Jeremie is first on that list even
> though he is not really actively involved any longer. Thomas Muldowney
> and Dave Smith are a close second given all their work on the core
> server etc. before release 1.0 was a glimmer in Jeremie's eye. Ryan
> Eatmon and Peter Millard are right in there too (heck, for a long time,
> the official protocol simply was whatever Winjab supported). These
> people built Jabber. They made it possible for us to work on this
> technology. Without them, none of us would be here. I think they deserve
> our respect and our thanks. And I think they should be listened to. That
> does not mean their word is god, that they cannot be questioned, or that
> we should just do what they say. But through many years of actively
> contributing, they have gained merit and standing in this community.
> After all, IM does not stand for instant merit. ;)

Naturally, new people and new views are always welcome, and I did not
mean to imply otherwise. In a community such as this, people come and go
as their interests and available time permit. I was new once, too. :)


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