[Foundation] "Jabber" name again ---- Terminal node?
David Waite
mass at akuma.org
Thu Oct 16 12:25:26 CDT 2003
Mike Prince wrote:
>- JabberD 2, as the reference implementation of XMPP (is that statement
>correct?) will garner greater attention, especially amongst
>sysops/hobbyists who want to try it out. We will hear lot's of "I
>installed Jabber!"
>
>
Probably more "a reference implementation of XMPP and JSF enhancements".
As far as the relationship between the jabberd project and the JSF is
concerned, it is purely a hosting relationship through jabberstudio.
>I don't work for Jabber, Inc., so the genericizing (sp? word?) of the
>Jabber name does not impact me AFAIK. And the trends work towards a
>Jabber "brand" which contrasts to Yahoo!, AOL, and MSN. This is good
>for us all as the layman understands there is an option.
>
>
I welcome argument from the board on this, but I think they have taken
the view that value of the Jabber brand in relation to the JSF outweighs
the confusion which users have over what Jabber "is". I also think the
recent step-downs from the JSF over the naming issues illustrates this
well. Unless the leadership believes switching to and promoting an
alternate "clearly owned" brand is the best option, all this
conversation is doing is illustrating an existing problem which the
deciding parties _already_ have an opinion on.
From a political point of view, I think people know what my hopes for
the future are. I'm more technically oriented though; the usefulness of
the extensions the JSF puts forward is not something I'm willing to
ignore or stop participating in.
Any hypothetical products I put forth implementing XMPP and JSF
enhancements would not advertise the jabber brand, and therefore might
not gain significant value by participating several JSF programs, such
as the compliance or branding programs. It is a shame that some of the
JSF services are 'tainted' by the use of the jabber brand, but in my
opinion there are plenty of other benefits the JSF still provides.
-David Waite
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