[Foundation] New protocol out of SIMPLE+XMPP :?

David Yitzchak Cohen dave at bigfatdave.com
Tue Oct 28 16:18:38 CST 2003

On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 04:01:32PM -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:

> Yes, some people from the SIP community approached some people from the
> Jabber community at the recent IM Planet convention. I was not there
> so my information is second-hand. However, there seems to be a desire
> among people in the SIP community to "bridge the gap" between SIP and
> XMPP at the IETF. I'm not sure exactly what that means yet.

They're just jealous that we're heading towards RFC status ;-P

> Some folks
> seem to want a hybrid protocol of some kind (which doesn't make any
> sense to me),

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the Jabber transport system designed
precisely in order to accomodate this type of interoperability "problem?"
If we're going to expand XMPP to interface natively with SIP, does that
mean we'll have a repeat when AOL decides to add "rich IM" features
and is forced to open its network?  Where do we stop?  The XMPP drafts
don't even include all the funcionality that the old "Jabber" system had
(although to be fair, they include MANY "neat" features that the original
didn't), and they're already getting _really_ long.  Whatever happened
to the ancient goal of keeping everything simple?

> but at this point the discussions are highly preliminary. 

/me thinks it's probably better they stay that way, unless politics at
the IETF dictate otherwise.

 - Dave

Uncle Cosmo, why do they call this a word processor?
It's simple, Skyler.  You've seen what food processors do to food, right?

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