[Members] Is this thing on?

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at jabber.org
Thu Dec 16 12:33:54 CST 2004

A client daemon is a great idea, which keeps resurfacing over the years
(temas was talking about this back in 2000 or so IIRC). Perhaps we'd
need one for each major desktop platform? This would enable other
developers to more easily add real-time features into their own apps.


On Thu, Dec 16, 2004 at 07:28:38PM +0100, johannes.wagener at gmx.net wrote:
> In most points I agree with Julian. In fact the jabber "communicty" 
> is spread in maybe too many projects.
> Maybe we should ask the question: "What do we want?"
> We wanted to create a standart protocol for IM and presence. We did 
> this now.
> Do we want more? Yes, we want to use applications that use jabber 
> protocol and do all the things we want them to do (Gogo Gadget).
> But the world is split, so are the developers. In my opinion there 
> are too many different projects - wasting work in many small 
> incomplete projects (that will all die a lonely death).
> We should now ask the question: "How to organize effective 
> application development?"
> I think for this one of the main issues is to make a STANDART for 
> jabber development, for example one jabber lib that offers standart 
> Application Programming Interface for many platforms (c++, php, 
> VB...). This development environment should reduce the work for a 
> developer to minimum and should integrate in OS smoothly. For example 
> developer should not have to care about account creation/account 
> setup itself but rather use system's/user's default jabber account. I 
> tried to tackle such a system with the XMPP Client Deamon 
> (http://xcd.jabberstudio.org)
> Whatever I wont be able to do such a complete projects for all the 
> platforms and features myself. I am aware that I can't force ppl to 
> join my own project. But of course I would accept to joind such a 
> project myself and integrade the stuff I already did in it.
> I want to create such a group. I want a group that all the current 
> jabber library developers join to integrate their ideas and code in 
> one complete big good lib.
> Johannes
> On 16 Dec 2004 at 8:45, Rottenberg, Hal wrote:
> > Been having some words with my Psi peers, and discussing some things
> > through Julian's "Jabber Vision" post
> > (http://missig.org/julian/blog/2004/11/27/jabber-vision/).  Has everyone
> > read this?  Please do so.
> > 
> > I think we should be discussing it here.
> > 
> > 
> > Regards, 
> > 
> > Hal Rottenberg
> > Hewlett-Packard
> > +1 404-774-4041
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