[Members] Is this thing on?

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at jabber.org
Thu Dec 16 15:23:16 CST 2004

On Thu, Dec 16, 2004 at 11:38:33AM -0800, Rachel Blackman wrote:
> >What about a JSF-certification process ? developers could submit their
> >software for review by the JSF, which could check
> >documentation, JEPs-compliance, etc and then award a certification, and
> >advertise certified software on its website.
> I wish you better luck of this proposal than I had when I put it 
> forward about six months ago on jdev. ;)
> Seriously, what I found was that a lot of client authors were up in 
> arms about who should set what's 'required' or 'recommended' to achieve 
> a certification.  

http://www.jabber.org/jeps/jep-0073.html seems like a good place to
start. I didn't write those protocol suite JEPs for the fun of it.

> Many were furious over the idea that they might have 
> to add a feature which didn't interest them.  And I got some vehement 
> responses, both on and off the jdev list, about people being open 
> source developers and doing it in their spare time and it therefore 
> being unfair to require them to implement specific things in order to 
> be on the JSF's download list. :/

Well, my thought is that we charge commercial developers for the
privilege of being certified and pay open-source developers if their
software passes.  (Not sure what we do about freeware or shareware.)

Money talks. People listen.

Part of the challenge will be that there is a lot more open-source
software than there is commercial software. But not that many
open-source projects are close to compliant, so perhaps we needn't 

The bigger challenge will be to write the certification software.


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