Aw: [Members] Re: 10,000 ft level protocol overview

Johannes Wagener johannes.wagener at
Sat Oct 22 08:27:20 CDT 2005


in example there was this jabber programmer's guide thing several years 
ago. It was very useful when I started with jabber. Maybe we could write 
such a thing again on

Of course, I would be interested in contributing to this new "book".

I would be even willing to master this project if this is ok for you,


Alexander Gnauck wrote:

>on the jep stuff i agree. We have lots of jeps now, and lots of them have dependencies to many other jeps.
>So for a developer that isnt involved that much in xmpp its very hard to find correct jeps.
>Some pages with proposals which jeps to use for which case would be cool. And which jeps current software is using. E.g. for file x-fer.
>----- Ursprüngliche Mitteilung -----
>Von: Hal Rottenberg <halr9000 at>
>An: JSF members discussion list <members at>
>Gesendet: Samstag, 22 Oktober, 2005 04:37:12
>Betreff: [Members] Re: 10,000 ft level protocol overview
>Did anyone want to discuss this at all?
>On 10/18/05, Hal Rottenberg <halr9000 at> wrote:
>>Peter et al,
>>I think it would be of some value to see at a glance, the status of
>>JEPs and perhaps more abstract "efforts".  Part of the solution for
>>this would be for us to bring some manner of filtering and sorting
>>back to the jeplist.  But how to track things like "VOIP" or
>>"encryption", when there are multiple JEPs that may be in development
>>and various things in the inbox that don't even appear on the jeplist?
>>One idea that occurred to me would be for Council members (or JSF
>>members at large?) or a JEP author to sponsor certain projects and
>>keep some manner of status page for it until something is in "active"
>>state.  Something less constrained than the technical language of the
>>JEPs themselves, and something that can encompass multiple JEPs and
>>proposed JEPs.  I think the wiki would be the best repository for
>>To use VOIP as an example, say I represent a business interested in
>>establishing open-source VOIP for my employees.  We already run a
>>jabber server, so the logical thinking would be to see how I could use
>>that resource to do voice as well.  I don't care about the status of
>>JEP-xxxx or yyyy.  I just want to know, "can XMPP do VOIP?"  Maybe I
>>have a budget for this and I see that the answer is "no", but that a
>>few individuals are working towards different ways to acheive the
>>goal.  Well now I know who to pay to get it expedited.  :)
>>Psi webmaster (
>>im:hal at
>Psi webmaster (
>im:hal at

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