[Members] jabber.org website mandate
Bart van Bragt
jabber at vanbragt.com
Thu Aug 24 15:44:59 CDT 2006
Ulrich Staudinger wrote:
> a) more tech savy people ? This includes linux developers, linux users,
> producers, developers, supporters, gurus, decision makers, professional
> it people, tech affine people of any age.
> * As information rich as possible
> * As concise as possible
> * As deep information as possible
Sounds great for xmpp.org, jabber.org should contain some links to
xmpp.org but besides that it would probably be smart to keep the really
technical stuff on xmpp.org
> b) more windows end users ? This includes grandmas, teens, people at
> home, pupils at school, non-tech affine people of any age.
> * As little complexity on the site as possible
> * As service and feature rich as necessary
> * As user friendly and usable as possible
Yup. IMO this is _the_ thing missing for Jabber (and a killer
app/feature :D). There just isn't a site to get people started.
jabber.org contains some of the basics but it's way too confusing and
bland for your average enduser. The first news post on jabber.org:
"IETF: XMPP URI Specification" 3 scary abbreviations in one title :)
the current jabber.org content is pretty suitable for xmpp.org though.
Jabber.org should be something like:
http://get.live.com/messenger/overview
http://messenger.yahoo.com/ (cool, it even points me to a Mac client :D)
or even:
http://www.aim.com/
Not a lot of text on the first page, slick graphics, the main advantages
of the protocol and a big button to get started. People don't read so
make sure that they don't have to if they just want to get down and dirty ;)
'Get Jabber'
-> Pick a client
-> Pick a server
-> Point to JID creation page
Maybe we can even create custom client install packages that include the
JID and other settings. That way the user doesn't have to go through
annoying setup screens in the client, they just have to enter their
password. Or we can try to improve the clients out there to make them a
bit more friendly to new users...
One thing that we shouldn't do is trying to be politically correct. Some
clients are just better suited for your average user than others, we
should just point the users to a very limited number of clients that we
know work well and are easy to use. Please don't try to be 'correct' and
show them a list with a zillion half functional Jabber clients :\
I think that it's smart to first focus on the basics. Don't make a
'feature rich' site, start with something simple. See how that works, if
we have the time to manage it and go from there. IMO it's not
jabber.org's job to provide things like webchats, qunu, etc, etc.
I can setup a vserver with Drupal on jabbercentral.net so we can play
around with possible setups. That way Peter doesn't have to worry about
sysadmin/account stuff and we'll be able to move everything to
jabber.org when the time is right.
BTW does anyone know of a decent tutorial for Drupal? I tried to create
a site with it some time ago but I really couldn't figure out how to do
that properly with that weird taxonomy stuff :) At that time there
didn't seem to be any decent documentation to get you going. Lots of
docs about setup and making modules or changing settings but no 'how to
make a site in 10 minutes' kind of walk through. Please ping me on
jabber at vanbragt com if you have some usable pointers :)
Bart
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