[Members] Reviewing Documents.

Dave Cridland dave at cridland.net
Tue Nov 11 06:36:51 CST 2008

On Tue Nov 11 11:44:25 2008, Remko Tronçon wrote:
> Although
> it is one of these hip features for the youngsters these days,

Great. Before I was just grumpy. Now I'm feeling old, too. :-/

> I can't give any valuable (i.e. non-theoretical) feedback on this,  
> but
> I agree that these are XEPs that require explicit support from the
> implementors. I guess it's the council job to judge whether it is  
> safe
> to advance this to draft without support, and if not, poke
> implementors to give their feedback or wait until there are enough
> implementations around.
That's true. But it's not a decision we need to worry about if we're  
getting the feedback.

> I always thought 'last call' meant 'last chance to complain about  
> the
> spec'. I didn't realize council was waiting on positive feedback as
> well, and that, when in doubt, they asked implementors themselves.
> I'll dig up my '+1' mail template, and make use of it for the next  
> last calls.

It's not quite what they're for... Our specifications aren't set in  
stone, so changes can be made at any time, albeit we prefer doing  
changes as early as possible, and major changes are much, much harder  
once a XEP goes to Draft.

But a Last Call is designed to get answers to questions, not merely a  

1. Is this specification needed to fill gaps in the XMPP protocol  
stack or to clarify an existing protocol?
2. Does the specification solve the problem stated in the  
introduction and
3. Do you plan to implement this specification in your code? If not,  
why not?
4. Do you have any security concerns related to this specification?
5. Is the specification accurate and clearly written?

The main reason I personally prefer some response to no response at  
all is to judge the general nature of the answers to (3) above -  
distinguishing silence-is-assent from silence-is-apathy is very hard  

In the case of XEP-0220, I'm really after the answers to (5) above.

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