[Members] Metaproposals 3 and 4 - Council Candidate Limitations and Appointment Appeals

Dave Cridland dave at cridland.net
Thu Oct 8 04:42:39 CDT 2009


On Thu Oct  8 10:16:26 2009, Nicolas Vérité wrote:
> * don't accept the candidates who have more 'no' than 'yes'. I think
> it's obvious.

I think that's strictly the case already for Council - we should  
formally add the limit there too.

> * we also have to find a way to limit the number of candidates  
> and/or
> elected member from one enterprise and/or community, in order to  
> avoid
> the actual problematic situation where we got two members of one
> enterprise in the Council, and one in the Board (so 3 out of 8 to 10
> places)

You're referring, of course, to Isode - and counting Kev as working  
here already, which he's not yet. (And, of course, Will doesn't  
actually work at all, being in Marketing).

I agree it's a potential concern, but I think it's more of a  
perception issue than a real one in practise - especially when, as we  
will be, we all work remotely from each other.

In an ideal world, of course, if the members had reservations about  
the situation, the members wouldn't vote that way, but because we  
vote individual candidates, rather than our choice of Council, it's  
hard to express that.

Moreover, you also have - as Justin pointed out - both Kev and Remko  
- both closely working together on Swift. I think that's probably as  
much of a problem as too many Isode (or ProcessOne, or Cisco) people  
would be.

If you *do* want to impose limits, you'll need to do them on the  
basis of canidature and not election, therefore, and I suspect that  
there's a risk of imposing so many limits that we lose out. I  
personally think there are times when the best Council achievable  
from the candidates standing is quite likely to have multiple people  
from the same company.

If for no other reason than Isode seems to have a habit of hiring the  
candidates while they're standing. (And yes, it would have been much  
better had we arranged to hire Kev well before the elections).

Dave.
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