[Members] New Wiki?

David Banes dbanes at cleartext.com
Mon Feb 15 15:44:36 CST 2010


And thinking about it we (Cleartext) have experience running this platform, and hosting it (as a Jive partner). We'd need a box with 4Gb of RAM, we usually host at Slicehost (http://www.slicehost.com/).

Happy to help out, but note Peter's comment about Wiki's, just changing the software doesn't mean more people will use it, BUT we do see more people engaging when the platform is cool, Jive SBS certainly is that.

David.
PS - Sorry about the top post, in a hurry! 

On 16/02/2010, at 5:03 AM, Matt Tucker wrote:

> Yep, we'd absolutely still provide a free copy of Jive SBS! The Atlassian stuff is great as well. One thing Jive would be helpful for is integrating forums and the mailing lists.
> 
> -Matt
> 
> On Feb 14, 2010, at 4:34 PM, David Banes wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On 15/02/2010, at 4:44 AM, Steffen Larsen wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all you beautiful XMPP members! :-)
>>> 
>>> I've been talking with Alexander Gnauk lately about our wiki (wiki.xmpp.org), because I needed to update the site about our member bot and what kind of features we want in the future for the bot.
>>> After updating the wiki and talking a bit with Alexander, we came to the conclusion that a new wiki could be really nice, because of a lot of bad behaviors of the old one (difficult to add new users, password changes and administration in general).
>>> So I was thinking the other day of the alternatives for a new wiki.
>>> 
>>> After using both JIRA, fisheye and confluence at work I was wondering why we do not use this scenario as well for our XSF? We already use fisheye as a SCM GUI, so for me it looks straight-forward to use confluence as well for our new wiki.
>>> As I see it we to consolidate our communication a bit and structure it and I believe that we can obtain that by moving our media wiki to Atlassian's confluence (a more structured wiki).
>>> 
>>> With confluence we get an easy administration for users and pages and it integrates very well with other kinds of software, e.g. Fisheye, JIRA and all other open social gadget based platforms.  I do not know if we have any issue tracking back-end yet, otherwise we could use JIRA as well to keep track of who is doing what (assign tasks to people instead of just emails flowing around) and even our XML/XSD protocol documents (XEPs). In that way our internal pages could be coupled together with the documents we are working on. We can even define our own work flow if we want.
>>> 
>>> I have used a couple of days to setup Confluence locally as our wiki and it seems very nice and simple for us to use if we want to have it instead of media wiki. So what do you guys think of the idea?
>>> 
>>> I also have some questions for you guys that have a longer relationship with the current wiki.. what is the current wiki used for?.. As I see it we use it as an intranet for swapping XMPP ideas, consolidating dates, meetings, future roadmaps etc? Am I correct? on the current wiki there is also some links for XMPP servers and clients, but why is this needed if they are already presented on the normal page of www.xmpp.org? I would also like to see the new wiki as a starting place for new members (like my self) to get an introduction about the structure of XMPP, the different teams etc. So all the stuff on the www.xmpp.org is the public stuff about the XMPP protocol and the wiki.xmpp.org is for the collaborating members.
>>> 
>>> To get back to the facts about confluence:
>>> 
>>> * We an get it for free, because we are an non-profix organization, which is nice. :-)
>>> * To install it on our servers we need an application server or servlet container (like tomcat or jboss etc) and a mysql for database storage.
>>> * If we have a LDAP of all the XMPP members we can use this ni confluence for users, passwords and access rights. So we would also be able to split the different teams with different access and rights.
>>> * We can import our current media wiki if we want to.. there is a plugin for this..
>>> 
>>> Some links:
>>> 
>>> http://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence/
>>> http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/
>>> 
>>> By the way I am in no way associated with Atlassian, just a daily user of their software. ha ha!
>>> 
>>> What do you guys think?.. Shall I continue my work and present a workable demo of it in the coming weeks (I'll send a link later on)?.. I would also gladly help by installing the software on the servers if the members think its a good idea.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Great idea, note that Matt Tucker from Jive Software also offered us a Jive SBS license about this time last year.
>> 
>> http://www.jivesoftware.com/
>> 
>> David.
>> 
>> 
>>> --Cheers and have a nice Valentines day!
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Steffen Larsen
>>> http://www.zool.dk
>>> xmpp:zooldk at gmail.com
>>> 
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