[Members] Voting Statistics

jehan at zemarmot.net jehan at zemarmot.net
Thu Jul 21 22:21:45 UTC 2011


Hi,

On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 22:11:50 +0100, Dave Cridland <dave at cridland.net>
wrote:
> Out of sheer curiousity, I plonked the voting tallies from the past 
> four meetings into a simple script to see how many people voted for 
> all four, and so on. I spotted three jid changes, but I may have 
> missed some. I won't name names, and please take my figures with a 
> pinch of salt, since it is easy to screw this up.
> 
> We had, for the past four meetings, 52 distinct voters, by my 
> reckoning. I would have thought that we'd have at least the number of 
> voters
> 
> This implies that we have some members who have not voted all year, I
> believe.
> 
> 28 of these voted four times. Of these, there are 3 (out of 4) Board 
> members, and 3 (out of 5) Council members.
> 
> A further 5 voted three times.
> 
> 13 voted twice - including the remaining Board member.
> 
> 6 voted just once, including two Council members.
> 
> It may be of interest to consider making more statistical 
> measurements - these just happened to be the easiest to make.
> 
> I would note that if I have my logic right, we must have at least 
> some members who haven't voted all year - so a general discussion on 
> whether we should be enforcing §2.6 might be worthwhile.

My opinion on this is that we can enforce it indeed. Let's make a
little cleaning.

But that should not hide the original discussion on why people aren't
voting/participating (in the thread) because I don't believe in
repression methods (based on numbers) as the best way to go forward. We
must still understand why people finds no interest into the XSF after
being voted in, then make it worth to be a member.

> I'm in favour, incidentally, because I think if we have a situation 
> of a minority within the XSF doing the work, we'll perpetuate the 
> feeling that members don't do anything in general. On the other hand, 
> if the vast majority of members are active within the community, then 
> anyone newly joining will feel obliged to join in the work.

As I said above, using repression (you'll get expelled if you don't do
this task!) only instead of proposing value (you'll be able to actually
do something, improve the XSF and work for XMPP from the inside and
participate in interesting projects) as being a member is not the best
way to have people "feel obliged" into helping and do the only
not-that-funny task we give members: vote for other members, who will
have the right to do the same.

So yeah let's do this cleaning, but let's not think that the solution
to our problem. That's only a consequence of this problem in my opinion.

Jehan


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