[Members] updated memberlist

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at stpeter.im
Fri Sep 9 18:35:18 UTC 2011


On 9/9/11 6:21 AM, Kevin Smith wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Florian Zeitz <florob at babelmonkeys.de> wrote:
>> Am 09.09.2011 13:32, schrieb Alexander Gnauck:
>>>
>>>     On Thu Sep  8 17:20:16 2011, Alexander Gnauck wrote:
>>>
>>>         I have not removed Nathanael Fritz because he is a council
>>>         member and
>>>         Nicolas Vérité who is a board member.
>>>
>>>
>>>     Can we even do that?
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know. There is nothing in the bylaws for this corner case.  This
>>> is why I want to put it for discussion here.
>>>
>>>     The only loophole I see that we could have used would be to assume
>>>     that sitting members of Council and/or Board were presumed to be
>>>     implicitly reapplying; however we would have still needed to vote on
>>>     those reapplications.
>>>
>>>
>>> I think we need changes to the bylaws.
>>> We could also extend automatically the membership for another 12 month
>>> when a member is voted into council.
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>>
>>
>> As much as I like to have Fritzy in the council I disagree.
>> There have been many complaints lately about members failing to perform
>> their duties (voting in that case). I think reapplying is one of them if
>> you want to retain your membership.
>>
>> I'd think that the council should not be preempted from that rule, but
>> would be expected to abide by it, more so than anyone else.
>> I.e. if not even council members manage to reapply how can we expect it
>> of the other members? (Assuming they have some kind of role model function)
> 
> FWIW, Fritzy not reapplying was deliberate rather than accidental -
> although he believed the Council term to have ended at the same time
> the membership period ended. I don't think there's any scope in the
> bylaws for making someone a member who didn't apply and I don't think
> we should try to find one.

Agreed.

The Bylaws currently state (Section 8.1):

If a Council member resigns his or her membership in the Corporation, is
removed from membership in the Corporation, or is terminated from
membership in the Corporation, he or she shall thereby relinquish all
rights and responsibilities as a member of the Council.

and (Section 2.6):

Members may have their membership status automatically terminated and
their names removed by the Secretary of the Corporation from all
membership records of the Corporation if they fail to participate in
three (3) consecutive meetings of the Members of the Corporation, held
electronically or otherwise.

IMHO those rules are clear, although there has been some confusion in
the past about Section 2.6 because it says "may" instead of "shall" have
their membership status automatically terminated. Naturally we could
clear that up via a chance to the Bylaws.

Peter

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