[Members] A new Server RFP

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at stpeter.im
Wed Oct 31 02:44:26 UTC 2012

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On 10/20/12 8:12 PM, Artur Hefczyc wrote:
> Hi,
> Originally the plan was to run a jabber.org <http://jabber.org/>
> service on selected software for 1 year with optional automatic
> extension for one more year. It's been 3 years since the last
> server RFP, so I wondered whether there are any plans to publish a
> new server RFP any time soon.

My apologies for the delayed reply -- for the last few weeks I've been
very busy with the XMPP Summit and day-job responsibilities.

Part of the reason for issuing a server RFP was to further sever the
tie between jabber.org and xmpp.org, which as you know goes back to
2003 at least (eventually resulting in the name change from JSF to
XSF). Truth be told, I would have preferred not to issue an RFP at all
for the jabber.org IM service, but at the time it was necessary.
Although jabber.org is a big node on the XMPP network, the service is
not offered by, sponsored by, or owned by the XSF. The jabber.org IM
service happens to be hosted in the same datacenter, where some of the
same machines host services for both jabber.org and xmpp.org (e.g.,
the machine athena.jabber.org runs both websites and the machine
atlas.jabber.org runs mail for both domains), but that is more a
matter of convenience for the overworked infrastructure team than
anything else.

In short, this is not a matter for consideration by the XSF. The
jabber.org admin team (which is not an XSF work team) has had some
tough choices to make with regard to the service, and we continue to
struggle with how to maintain the service over time (e.g., sourcing
new hardware), but that's not the XSF's worry any longer.

And yes, I realize more than anyone that it's hard to keep the
jabber.org and xmpp.org hats separate, but I think it's been the right
way to proceed, if only to shield the XSF from liability -- e.g., you
don't want to know about the kind of events that led me to add Section
4 to the jabber.org service policy:


As to whether the jabber.org admin team will issue another RFP anytime
soon, the answer is "no" but I will send you a message about that
offlist because it's not an XSF topic.


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