[Members] Google and XMPP federation

Winfried Tilanus winfried at tilanus.com
Mon May 27 13:03:38 UTC 2013

On 05/27/2013 01:04 PM, Simon Tennant wrote:


> If we are serious about encouraging open, federated communication and
> building the standards that others can adopt then now is the time to lay
> down our pitchforks and reflect on:
> - why so many web developers have such a negative reaction to XMPP,
> - why XMPP is perceived as difficult to build on (keyword: perceived),
> - what we are doing to grow beyond pure user to user chat and better
> address the mobile world.

Good issues that we (as the XMPP community) need to face. I would like
to add one question to it:

- why are XMPP powerhouses like Google not participating in the XMPP
community when they solve their problems? They tend to invent their own
square XMPP-wheels.

XMPP is not only a protocol, but also an ecosystem and a community. That
combination is one of the big strengths of XMPP. What I see happening
now, is a company that uses the protocol, but barely participates in the
ecosystem and keeps far away from the community, what is frustrating for
us, the people forming the community. Now that company chooses not to
use the protocol and says publicly so. That move offends us: we feel we
never had the chance to do it right WITH them, and by the company
turning their back on us we feel betrayed. So how come we (Google and
the XMPP community) were never able to cooperate?


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