[Members] [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0345 (Form of Membership Applications)

Dave Cridland dave at cridland.net
Wed Jul 23 14:25:59 UTC 2014


Thanks for the feedback.

On 23 July 2014 13:18, Joachim Lindborg <joachim.lindborg at sust.se> wrote:

> I know it's not a mandatory thing but as I just went through a voting
> process and it helps alot if they look somewhat the same. I think it could
> be stated in the introduction
>
> *"It is recommended to review previous applications and provide some of
> the topics mentioned by others ex. "XMPP experience", "Earlier XEP
> involvement","Previous applications", "Why I'm applying"*
>
>
I think "Why I'm applying" is as close to a mandatory bit of prose as we
have, but I'm terrified enough that people think you need to be a member to
write a XEP, or anything. But yes, strongly recommending including more
than the bare bones would be useful.

What about, as a new final paragraph to the Introduction:

Although this specification provides only a very few mandatory items, most
applications include considerably more than this, and the existing members
- who will be voting on an application - will be expecting to see sections
explaining why someone is applying, and giving a more useful background to
the individual. Reviewing past applications is highly recommended, though
novel applications - as long as they conform to these minimal requirements
- are also welcomed.


>
> In the latest application common page, company name is stated as mandatory
> http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications_Q3_2014
>
>
The bylaws refers to this as "affiliations". XEP-0345 says in its current
form that this doesn't only mean employment.

I should probably expand this to ensure it most certainly does include
that, as well as cover other things that (I think) are covered by the
by-laws.

OLD TEXT:

"""
Relevant Affiliations
Any affiliations, as described within the final clause of the XSF Bylaws,
Section 2.1. Note that this is not limited to employment.
"""

NEW TEXT:

"""
Relevant Affiliations
Any affiliations, as described within the final clause of the XSF Bylaws,
Section 2.1. Note that this is not limited to employment, but must include
it. Other relevant affiliations include any other organization the
applicant may represent.
"""

In other words, I not only have to mention Surevine, but Openfire, too. And
if we get too many Openfire developers - and trust me I'd love to have this
problem - this could reject that application under the 15% rule.

(Note that the organization is actually "Ignite Realtime" for Openfire, but
still).

Dave.
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