[Members] limiting Editor Team members to XSF members

Dave Cridland dave at cridland.net
Sat Oct 10 18:47:45 UTC 2015


If the Infrastructure Team *is* a formal Work Team, then yes. It does say
"Participants are recruited from among the XSF membership", too.

But in practical terms, there are people who are sort of in the
Infrastructure Team but yet aren't - I'm thinking of Jerry here, for
example. He's our hosting provider, and as such he's on the mailing list
etc.

I suspect that the Infrastructure Team as described there is, in by-law
terms, a Work Team plus selected external advisors.

My inclination would be, in general, that Work Teams *should* be XSF member
only, not because we want to restrict the membership of them, but because
we want to ensure that everyone involved inthe operation of the XSF has a
say in its leadership.

On 10 October 2015 at 17:50, Peter Saint-Andre - &yet <peter at andyet.net>
wrote:

> Does that imply that the Infrastructure Team is in violation of the bylaws?
>
> On 10/10/15 7:38 AM, Dave Cridland wrote:
>
>> The editor work team is a "Work Team" as defined by the bylaws, so is
>> restricted to XSF Members by that definition.
>>
>> Furthermore, "from among the XSF membership" says, to me, that it's
>> restricted to members.
>>
>> The approval by Board was put there, as I recall, because Work teams are
>> under the Board.
>>
>> See §8.3 in the bylaws.
>>
>> On 10 October 2015 at 14:44, Peter Saint-Andre - &yet <peter at andyet.net
>> <mailto:peter at andyet.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     Recently Sam Whited (who is at the XMPP Summit right now)
>>     volunteered to help with the Editor Team but was refused because he
>>     is not a member of the XSF. Thinking about it further, I don't think
>>     we defined the charter of the Editor Team correctly. It says:
>>
>>         Members of the work team shall be selected by the XMPP Council
>> after
>>         a call for volunteers from among the XSF membership, and shall be
>>         approved by the XSF Board of Directors.
>>
>>     (Actually that doesn't even say that Editor Team members need to be
>>     members of the XSF, so it was poorly worded in the first place!)
>>
>>     Contrast that text with what we have in the Infrastructure Team
>> charter:
>>
>>         The team is limited to elected members of the XSF and invited
>> others
>>         at the discretion of the team. Participants are recruited from
>> among
>>         the XSF membership by the team lead and approved by a simple
>>         majority of the existing team members.
>>
>>     I don't see a strong reason why the Editor Team charter needs to be
>>     different on this point.
>>
>>     Peter
>>
>>     --
>>     Peter Saint-Andre
>>     https://andyet.com/
>>
>>
>>
>
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