[Members] Update on "Push for XMPP as mandatory standard for message exchange in Dutch Healthcare"

Winfried Tilanus winfried at tilanus.com
Fri Jan 10 15:47:42 UTC 2020

On 6/6/19 11:49 PM, Winfried Tilanus wrote:

This summer I wrote about this push I am attempting. Now a half year
later, time for an update.

Originally I planned to bypass the working group working on a mandatory
standard for secure communication in Dutch by Healthcare by creating a
POC of secure communication over XMPP. That is not necessary anymore. I
managed to acquire a prominent place in the official working group and
have even found a strong ally there: it turned out that one of bigger
vendors of IM systems in Dutch Healthcare, KPN zorg messenger
(https://www.ezorg.nl/kpn-zorg-messenger/) is using XMPP as backend and
is willing to standardize to XMPP. (BTW: Cisco Netherlands is also

The process will be more or less:
1 mandating a small writers group
2 the small group drafts a security standard for IM in healthcare
3 accepting the IM part by the 'big committee'
4 translate it to a mandatory interop standard
5 do interop testing with it

It is for 99% sure I will be in the small writers group. In step 2&3
there will be a lot of political maneuvering to get the security
standard fit for the protocol that will be chosen in step 4. One of the
bigger uncertainties in the process is the Matrix versus XMPP
discussion. I have my preference (as I expect most here will have), but
I will need to convince the others in the big committee about it too. So
any help here is welcome.

On a separate, but not fully unrelated track: the Dutch government
mandates a list of obligatory open standards to use by the National
Dutch government. I want to try to push XMPP as open standard for IM on
that list. It would be very helpful to have 2-3 Dutch Governmental
bodies that are using XMPP and that are willing to back a push for XMPP.
If anybody knows such organizations, please let me know!

I'll keep you posted, and let me know if you have any information or
sources that may help me.


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