[Operators] Google Talk Federation Problems

Adam Fass afass at google.com
Tue Mar 25 18:11:14 CDT 2008

We recently deployed a fix that will prevent new Google Apps Team Edition
domains from interfering with existing federated domains. If a user signs up
for Team Edition using a domain that is already federated, Google Talk is
simply disabled for that Team Edition domain. Other services are still
available in Team Edition, and XMPP federation with Google will continue to

If you are setting up a new federated domain and you find that someone has
already signed up for Team Edition, you can have the Talk service disabled
in Team Edition. We don't do this automatically when an SRV record appears
because users will lose the service and we want to make sure that a domain
operator understands this. There are two ways to have Talk disabled for a
Team Edition domain:

1. You can upgrade to Standard Edition (free) and disable Google Talk. See
this page for instructions:

2. If you prefer not to upgrade to Standard Edition, you can create an SRV
record for your domain and then send a request that Talk for Team Edition be
disabled to xmpp at google.com.

If you are having any other problem federating with Google, please report it
to xmpp at google.com. We choose not to publish this alias in our help
documentation because we did this before and many Talk client users used it
to report problems. We are announcing the alias here in the hope that we can
have direct communication with domain operators while ensuring that client
users go through the channel that we have designed for them.

We apologize for all of the inconvenience that this has caused and we thank
you all for your patience and feedback.

Adam M. Fass
Software Engineer

On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Adam Fass <afass at google.com> wrote:

> Here is some additional information on the federation problems with
> Google that some of you have observed.
> The problem occurs when a user signs up for Google Apps Team Edition
> with a domain that already uses XMPP federation. We believe we have
> fixed all domains that had this problem as of Feb. 22nd by disabling
> Google Talk in Team Edition, but it is possible that we missed a few.
> Other domains may encounter this problem as new users sign up for Team
> Edition, and we are working on a solution that checks for federated
> domains automatically when users sign up.
> If you are having a problem with federation, please report it to our
> new alias for federation issues:
> xmpp at google.com
> If you administer a federated domain, you can fix this problem
> yourself by upgrading from Google Apps Team Edition to Standard
> Edition. Standard Edition provides a console that you can use to
> disable Google Talk. See this page for instructions:
> http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?answer=86647
> You can also request help from other users here:
> http://groups.google.com/group/google-talk-open
> Thanks,
> Adam Fass
> Software Engineer
> Google
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