[Operators] Fwd: Looking for full xml list / app idea

Joseph Zucchero jzucc60 at gmail.com
Sun Apr 24 23:41:06 UTC 2011

It is not as user-friendly as it could be for sure.  I have a few services
to offer online, and if you could find a way to open the community to me
then you'll get more people visiting your website and subscribing, your
ultimate goal.  I can't give you personal info. for security reasons but I
am willing to affiliate with your site to monitor and let you know how we
can work together.

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Swen Lux <root at fserver.org> wrote:

> On 24.04.2011 22:04, Ben Zimmer wrote:
>> The one that was linked to from the old services-site has some columns
>>>> lacking (like country, CA) while the table available on the
>>>> wordpressy-site has those columns but is lacking others in change.
>>> Right, we removed lat/lon because it was causing the table to be cut off
>>> in most browsers, because it was a pain to gather and update that data,
>>> and because country is probably close enough.
>> Agreed, but more important is the lack of the CA-field in the
>> xml-list, as that would be required for the automatic checks
>> (SSL-capability) to work. Perhaps we could merge the xml-file and the
>> html-table data, to get a complete list to use.
>>  I'd like to hear some feedback and suggestions on the "app-idea". To
>>>> be honest I was a bit bored last weekend and already set up a basic
>>>> app that can import the old services-full.xml into a sql-database and
>>>> can receive new registrations by form-submission. If there is interest
>>>> I'd be willing to polish it up a bit so you can have a look.
>>>  From your description, I assume that the app is a form-submission page
>>> (in WordPress or separate?) that handles/formats the input data, sends a
>>> message to this list, sends messages to the right domain contacts, etc.
>>> Correct?
>> My first shot is a standalone app (as I'm not that fluent in PHP and
>> wordpress-plugins) written in Python (based on the flask framework).
>> The feature-set I have in mind would look like this:
>> Frontend:
>>  - Page to display the table for the human eye
>>  - represantations of that table in xml, json to to be used by
>> clients or other applications
>>  - form for server-admins to register their servers/domains
>> Backend:
>>  - Table as in the frontend but with capability maintain the
>> server-list by hand (displays all information necessary to approve a
>> sever)
>>  - on new request by the frontend-form:
>>    - adds server to backend table, marked as "not approved"
>>    - sends email to server-admin addresses for verification
>>    - does SRV-, SSL-checks and displays results in the backend table
>>    - sends new requests to mailinglist
>>    - once one of us has contacted the domain-owner personally and all
>> checks are positive the server could be marked as "approved" and
>> appears in the frontend-table and xml-list
>>  - does regular checks on availability, SRV-records etc. and informs
>> staff about offline servers
>> Hope I forgot nothing :) The main goal would be to have all tools to
>> approve a server in one place.
>> Ben
> That sounds more than great! I have an mailserver running which is not
> under high load (~7k mails a month) maybe we could script the initial mail
> to postmaster / hostmaster of the root-domain?
> But this whole app sounds more than helpful!
> Great idea Ben!
> best,
> Swen
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