[Operators] Out of curiousity... "What about the List?"

Ben Zimmer ben at einfachjabber.de
Mon Nov 21 12:18:20 UTC 2011


sure, I'll just clean it up/dust it off a little and push it to github
or something, as soon as possible.


On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 11:23, Peter Viskup <skupko.sk at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Ben,
> would it be possible to see the source code of this application?
> It would be much better to contact Peter Saint-Andre [stpeter<at>stpeter.im]
> to get quicker response.
> Best regards,
> --
> Peter Viskup
> On 11/20/2011 10:50 AM, Ben Zimmer wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I'l try to sum up the status as of now:
>> I built an little application, that should make it a lot easier to
>> process new list-applications in the future, as it automates some of
>> the steps necessary to verify a new server.
>> At the moment it has the following features:
>> * form for server-admins to register their servers
>> * automatic sending of verification-email with verification-link to
>> proove email-address is real
>> * basic check if server is reachable
>> * check for SRV-records
>> * check for StartTLS/SSL (this is a bit unreliable at the moment and
>> would have to be improved)
>> * export of list ready to import into the current
>> wordpress-table-format on xmpp.org
>> I asked if this application could be deployed to the server that hosts
>> xmpp.org so that it could be integrated in to the page
>> (http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/operators/2011-September/001219.html).
>> No answer on that so far.
>> Regarding the list itself and new applications to it:
>> We processed all new applications (until today) into this application
>> and also marked old, non-responding server as not-verified there. I
>> exported the updated list and imported it to the xmpp-wordpress.
>> After this I asked if somebody could approve this and make it public,
>> but as of now, nobody did (see
>> http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/operators/2011-September/001220.html).
>> No reaction to this so far.
>> The update doesn't include new applications, because email and
>> xmpp-address verification is still to be done here. For this purpose
>> there was a blogpost planned to inform people about a (mass) email to
>> be sent out and from which email this would come to prevent
>> misunderstandings (we cannot use a xmpp.org email-address).
>> I prepared this blogpost and sent out a request for it to be
>> proof-read
>> (http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/operators/2011-September/001218.html),
>> again without any reaction.
>> That's about it.
>> Ben
>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 22:15, Marco Cirillo<maranda at lightwitch.org>
>>  wrote:
>>> I think I last mailed asking about it, about 1 month ago...
>>> But time is still ticking and there's no visible progress.
>>> And at the cost of wearing a "Troll Mask".
>>> I'd like to know exactly what's the real _showstopper_ here.
>>> I think I discussed the same argument with Ludovic one month ago, he
>>> hoped
>>> as I did that within October this would get sorted.
>>> But I reluctantly observe that it's always just a few responses then back
>>> to
>>> the initial Void.
>>> I'd firmly appreciate that the answer isn't:<<  time>>; because, aside
>>> unacceptable, it would be astonishing.
>>> If there's really an objective issue in achieving this *task*, I guess
>>> it's
>>> really time to _discuss_ about it.
>>> Regards,
>>> Marco

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