[Operators] Out of curiousity... "What about the List?"

Ivan Martinez ivan.martinez at masterion.com
Thu Nov 24 08:36:47 UTC 2011


Thank a lot Ben. I really hope this finally gets somewhere. Peter, this 
is very important to make services known, please find some time to solve 
the issue...

Iván Martínez

> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 21:31:38 +0100
> From: Ben Zimmer <ben at einfachjabber.de>
> Subject: Re: [Operators] Out of curiousity... "What about the List?"
> To: XMPP Operators Group <operators at xmpp.org>
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> You can now find the source-code here:
>
> https://github.com/benzimmer/xmpp-public-services
>
> Installation instructions included :)
>
> Ben
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 13:18, Ben Zimmer <ben at einfachjabber.de> 
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> sure, I'll just clean it up/dust it off a little and push it to 
>> github
>> or something, as soon as possible.
>>
>> Ben
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 11:23, Peter Viskup <skupko.sk at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>> Hi Ben,
>>> would it be possible to see the source code of this application?
>>> It would be much better to contact Peter Saint-Andre 
>>> [stpeter<at>stpeter.im]
>>> to get quicker response.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> --
>>> Peter Viskup
>>>
>>> On 11/20/2011 10:50 AM, Ben Zimmer wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I'l try to sum up the status as of now:
>>>>
>>>> I built an little application, that should make it a lot easier to
>>>> process new list-applications in the future, as it automates some 
>>>> of
>>>> the steps necessary to verify a new server.
>>>> At the moment it has the following features:
>>>>
>>>> * form for server-admins to register their servers
>>>> * automatic sending of verification-email with verification-link 
>>>> to
>>>> proove email-address is real
>>>> * basic check if server is reachable
>>>> * check for SRV-records
>>>> * check for StartTLS/SSL (this is a bit unreliable at the moment 
>>>> and
>>>> would have to be improved)
>>>> * export of list ready to import into the current
>>>> wordpress-table-format on xmpp.org
>>>>
>>>> I asked if this application could be deployed to the server that 
>>>> hosts
>>>> xmpp.org so that it could be integrated in to the page
>>>> 
>>>> (http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/operators/2011-September/001219.html).
>>>> No answer on that so far.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding the list itself and new applications to it:
>>>> We processed all new applications (until today) into this 
>>>> application
>>>> and also marked old, non-responding server as not-verified there. 
>>>> I
>>>> exported the updated list and imported it to the xmpp-wordpress.
>>>> After this I asked if somebody could approve this and make it 
>>>> public,
>>>> but as of now, nobody did (see
>>>> 
>>>> http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/operators/2011-September/001220.html).
>>>> No reaction to this so far.
>>>>
>>>> The update doesn't include new applications, because email and
>>>> xmpp-address verification is still to be done here. For this 
>>>> purpose
>>>> there was a blogpost planned to inform people about a (mass) email 
>>>> to
>>>> be sent out and from which email this would come to prevent
>>>> misunderstandings (we cannot use a xmpp.org email-address).
>>>>
>>>> I prepared this blogpost and sent out a request for it to be
>>>> proof-read
>>>> 
>>>> (http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/operators/2011-September/001218.html),
>>>> again without any reaction.
>>>>
>>>> That's about it.
>>>> Ben
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 22:15, Marco 
>>>> Cirillo<maranda at lightwitch.org>
>>>> ?wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think I last mailed asking about it, about 1 month ago...
>>>>> But time is still ticking and there's no visible progress.
>>>>>
>>>>> And at the cost of wearing a "Troll Mask".
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to know exactly what's the real _showstopper_ here.
>>>>> I think I discussed the same argument with Ludovic one month ago, 
>>>>> he
>>>>> hoped
>>>>> as I did that within October this would get sorted.
>>>>>
>>>>> But I reluctantly observe that it's always just a few responses 
>>>>> then back
>>>>> to
>>>>> the initial Void.
>>>>> I'd firmly appreciate that the answer isn't:<< ?time>>; because, 
>>>>> aside
>>>>> unacceptable, it would be astonishing.
>>>>>
>>>>> If there's really an objective issue in achieving this *task*, I 
>>>>> guess
>>>>> it's
>>>>> really time to _discuss_ about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Marco



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