On May 5, 2017 1:25:11 AM GMT+03:00, Evgeny Khramtsov <xramtsov at gmail.com> wrote: >Both are dead in fact, but XMPP at least has a nice past. May be both are not alive, but matrix is only two years old and it has no problems with message lost, can call and send push messages, and xmpp is about 10 times older.b -- sergio.