[Security] TLS Triple Handshakes

[Thijs Alkemade]

On 3 mrt. 2014, at 22:35, Dave Cridland <dave at cridland.net> wrote:

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> On 3 March 2014 21:47, Waqas Hussain <waqas20 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Fedor Brunner <fedor.brunner at azet.sk> wrote:
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> > Hi all,
> > this attack on TLS security may be interesting for XMPP
> > https://www.imperialviolet.org/2014/03/03/triplehandshake.html
> > https://secure-resumption.com/#further
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> > The attacker could modify tls-unique channel binding and affect
> > SCRAM-SHA-1-PLUS authentication method.
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> Yes, it's interesting, at a first glance.
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> It would, however, only affect clients that do not verify certificates properly (at least at the point of sending SASL stuff).
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> You also need clients and servers that are perfectly happy to see renegotiation, and it's not vastly obvious why XMPP *needs* any renegotiation.
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> So something to be aware of, rather than panic over.
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> Dave.


I disagree, there are good reasons to allow renegotiation on XMPP (for example: hiding client-side certificates).

Resumption, on the other hand, I don’t see quite as useful for XMPP, due to StartTLS. Resumption is vital to this attack.

From my very limited testing with a handful of servers and `openssl s_client`, it seems most servers allow renegotiation. Servers running Prosody/ejabberd did not allow resumption, but jabber.org (M-Link) does. However, it seems the XMPP layer is treating any resumption as if it were a new connection.


Thijs


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