[standards-jig] Presence priority finetuning

Julian Missig julian at jabber.org
Mon Jul 1 19:45:20 UTC 2002


On Mon, 2002-07-01 at 15:41, Sami Haahtinen wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 22, 2002 at 04:12:59PM -0400, Julian Missig wrote:
> > On Sat, 2002-06-22 at 15:58, Sami Haahtinen wrote:
> > > the common idea appears to be that client asks the server to do what
> > > the client wants, so if the client doesn't want to negotiate it
> > > doesn't ask for it. i just feel it's cleaner this way, that the
> > > client initiates it.
> > 
> > Except that browse/disco work by having other people query you. I
> > don't see a problem with that. You'd have to start adding even more
> > stuff to say "hey, server, query me" in browse/disco, when it's not
> > really necessary. The client queries for supported authorization
> > protocols because the client is the one that needs the information. In
> > this case, the server needs information... so it queries the client.
> > That seems pretty normal to me.
> 
> First i agreed to this, but later on i came to think about mod_offline,
> which mixes up the things quite a bit..
> 
> before the server sends the offline messages, it needs to know wether
> the client will accept them, if you think about it this way, the client
> has to negotiate the accepted messages before sending it's first
> <presence/> to make sure that the server only sends the messages that
> this client accepts certain types of messages.

... so?
There's nothing saying a server can't browse you right after you
connect, before you even send a presence packet. Or the server could
wait on sending the messages until after it attempts to browse you.

Julian




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