[Standards-JIG] Re: DEFERRED: JEP-0085 (Chat State Notifications)

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at jabber.org
Mon Oct 25 23:26:18 UTC 2004


In article 
<FOENKLDIMCIMONDFDEMKKENNCFAA.ian.paterson at clientside.co.uk>,
 "Ian Paterson" <ian.paterson at clientside.co.uk> wrote:

> > > If and when a new revision of this JEP is published, its status
> > > will be changed back to Experimental.
> >
> > Maybe we could add in the introduction :
> > 6. The protocol adds a new state 'GONE'.
> >
> > IMHO the definition GONE suggested trigger should be changed to :
> > "The user closes the chat window."
> 
> Yes, this example would be a very useful clarification of the existing
> definition of GONE.
> 
> > The current GONE suggested trigger is superfluous because we have
> > already have the INACTIVE state to notify lack of user interaction
> > for a 'long' period.
> 
> My client currently sends INACTIVE when the discussion window has not been
> the top window for 30 seconds. IMHO the recommended 2 minutes is too long.
> For example:
> 
> If User A believes that User B is reading his last message and/or thinking
> about a response, then User A will probably wait for the response. If User B
> is in fact working in another window, then User A needs to know this as soon
> as possible.
> 
> > we should really push this JEP for Last Call as it is simpler and
> > less prone to non-compliant implementations than JEP-22.
> 
> I agree. The JEP-0022 'composing' event should be depricated. JEP-0085
> should be advanced.

We never did reach consensus about this about 8 months ago or so. 
However, perhaps we can try again with the new Council.

/psa




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