[Standards-JIG] proto-JEP: Smart Presence Distribution

Pedro Melo melo at co.sapo.pt
Thu May 18 14:36:37 UTC 2006


On May 18, 2006, at 9:37 AM, Dave Cridland wrote:
> On Thu May 18 09:21:40 2006, Jean-Louis Seguineau wrote:
>> Carlo v. Loesch wrote:
>> > Concerning the privacy lists, we could extend the protocol used to
>> > define these privacy lists between client and server in a way that
>> > the changes are also forwarded to the target server, so the target
>> > server knows which exceptions to keep in mind. This also is a much
>> > less invasive change than to introduce a verbose new protocol.
>> You are missing the point here. Sit back, relax and read back  
>> Tills or
>> Michal latest posts. As base principle for privacy and security  
>> you NEVER
>> trust a third party to enforce YOUR own rules. > But this is just  
>> theory. Jabber has a model that relies on outgoing
>> > filters, so we will see how we can go about that.
>> This model was dictated by the above principles amongst other  
>> things. And it
>> has made XMPP better at controlling 'evil' traffic than some other
>> protocols. XMPP does NOT naturally outsource its trust to other  
>> servers.
> Absolutely. To put it another way, this proposal is attempting to  
> move the responsibility for the users' privacy onto foreign  
> domains. Users no longer have to trust their own server, but the  
> entire network, to act on their privacy requirements.

Maybe this is just me, but if you send your presence to a contact in  
server X, aren't you already trusting server X not to forward your  
information to anybody else?

Best regards,
HIId: Pedro Melo
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