[Standards] Jingle audio and G.711

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at stpeter.im
Fri Apr 11 14:37:54 UTC 2008

Olivier Crête wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-04-11 at 06:50 -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>> Paul Witty wrote:
>>> Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>>>> Lauri Kaila wrote:
>>>>> 2008/4/10, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter at stpeter.im>:
>>>>>> Offlist, someone mentioned to me that it might be appropriate for
>>>>>>  XEP-0167 to recommend or even require support for the ITU-T's G.711
>>>>>>  technology, which is represented by payload-types 0 (PCMU) and 8
>>>>>> (PCMA)
>>>>>>  as registered with the IANA.
>>>>>>  http://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-G.711/e
>>>>>>  Thoughts?
>>>>> I think 64 kbits/s is too much to be mandatory.
>>>> I think the idea was that G.711 is supported everywhere, so recommending
>>>> support for it in Jingle would help interoperability with existing SIP
>>>> networks and the PSTN.
>>> Indeed.  We have a Jingle->SIP/H.323 gateway.  I don't know of any SIP
>>> or H.323 endpoints which support Speex, so if that is the only
>>> recommended codec for Jingle audio, then we have to be prepared to
>>> transcode the audio in all cases.  By guaranteeing a minimum of G.711,
>>> we should be always able to gateway between protocols without
>>> transcoding if so desired, even if we may need to transcode for higher
>>> quality audio e.g. Speex to AAC.
>> Right, that's the idea.
>> Is basic G.711 still patent-encumbered in any way? I'll have to do some
>> research on that...
> The G.711 standard was published in 1972, I don't know of any
> jurisdiction where patents can last that long.

I don't either. :) A quick search didn't yield any patents outstanding,
so I think it's probably safe (IANAL etc.). Now the question is whether
it should be mandatory to implement or just recomended.


Peter Saint-Andre

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