[Standards] Unsigned DANE records for TLS assertions

Dave Cridland dave at cridland.net
Wed Dec 4 09:27:33 UTC 2013

On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter at stpeter.im>wrote:

> On 12/4/13 2:13 AM, Dave Cridland wrote:
> I'm waxing sleepy because it's 2 AM here, but I don't see how we get
> that level of trust with unsigned DNS records...
I assumed from the quantity of mail I was seeing from you that you were
travelling. ;-)

We're currently using unsigned DNS records to authenticate anyway if the
certificate fails to authenticate. So there's no new attack vector by using
unsigned TLSA to prevent that fallback; and perhaps some fearsome TTLs on
such records might mean we end up with a net win.


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