[Standards] Heml.is and federation..

Daniele Ricci daniele.athome at gmail.com
Thu Jul 18 06:47:32 UTC 2013

draft-miller-xmpp-e2e-06, at 3.2.2-3 states:
"Constructs a forwarding envelope (M) using a <forwarded/> element [...]"

why the <forwarded/>? Why not encode the stanza itself?

On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Ralph Meijer <ralphm at ik.nu> wrote:
> On 2013-07-12 20:56, Steffen Larsen wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I just stumbled upon https://heml.is, which is a new XMPP client for IOS
>> and Android. Anyone knows these guys?
>> It uses XMPP and PGP for encryption, but do any of you guys know if they
>> federate?.. What I can see from skimming their page, its yet another silo,
>> due to the fact of PGP and their own infrastructure.
>> So federation and using your own domain does not seem feasible, right?
>> Anyone want to discuss this and the alternatives besides OTR? Security
>> labels?
>> When I see something like this I get exited to start with because I
>> actually want something like this on the client/server part, but then later
>> on gets down to earth when it seems out of the standards. Or is it just me?
> I think the most interesting aspect of projects like this is the addition of
> some form of end-to-end encryption. If you want to be involved in an effort
> like this, I strongly recommend you get on the IETF XMPP WG mailing list and
> discuss Matt Miller's draft [1].
> This is basically the result of several attempts to standardize e2s
> encryption for XMPP. It needs more eyes, implementations and feedback.
> [1] <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-miller-xmpp-e2e-06>
> --
> ralphm


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