[Standards] Deprecating Privacy Lists

Ben Langfeld ben at langfeld.me
Mon Oct 12 19:27:51 UTC 2015

On 12 October 2015 at 16:20, Evgeny Khramtsov <xramtsov at gmail.com> wrote:

> Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:04:43 -0300
> Ben Langfeld <ben at langfeld.me> wrote:
> > "We want to deprecate Privacy Lists because we think it's a bad spec."
> > "You'll have to write a good spec first!"
> > "A good spec would be nice. Do you (or anyone else in the community)
> > fancy helping write one?"
> > "No! You (XSF council / mystical XEP-writing fairies) have to do it.
> > Don't you dare deprecate Privacy Lists!"
> > "Yeah, developers shouldn't have to write specs. That's the project
> > manager's job. Developers just translate specs into code."
> Well basically that's true. Not in the details because you added to
> many emotions here (probably you're a very hurting person), but true.

Ok, thanks for the psych eval, much appreciated.

> Ah, and still no technical arguments except "Privacy Lists are complex
> (just like PubSub)" :)

So your argument is in-fact that there's nothing wrong with Privacy Lists
and therefore the XSF should continue promoting it as a good quality
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