[Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: References

Edwin Mons jsf at edwinm.ik.nu
Thu Feb 11 15:37:20 UTC 2016

On 11-02-16 15:53, Kevin Smith wrote:
> Hi Goffi,
> On 8 Feb 2016, at 11:20, Goffi <goffi at goffi.org> wrote:
>> Le vendredi 5 février 2016, 15:52:36 XMPP Extensions Editor a écrit :
>>> The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP.
>>> Title: References
>>> Abstract: This document defines XMPP protocol for multi-user chat for text
>>> messages and sharing other information such as images.   The protocol
>>> includes core chatroom features such as room topics and invitations and
>>> defines a strong room control model, including the ability to kick and ban
>>> users, to name room moderators and administrators, to require membership or
>>> passwords in order to join the room.  The protocol aims to maximise use of
>>> standard XMPP building blocks and in particular makes use of PubSub and
>>> MAM.
>> Why do we have the abstract of MIX here instead of the one of references ?
> Incompetence (mine).
>>> URL: http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/references.html
>> I think this XEP is a good move and will be usefull to complete URIs. I have 
>> some points to discuss:
>> - the XEP talks about MIX and doesn't references it (ha-ha), a link to the MIX 
>> XEP would help
> Fair.
>> - the XEP seems to *only* talk about MIX. Being a work in progress, it would 
>> be nice to show examples with other use cases (PubSub node, MUC).
> Fair.
>> - how do we reference something without URI ? A message stanza for instance ? 
>> How do we specify the id ?
> As Chris later noted, we’re likely to need to define URI schemes for the various things we might want to reference.
>> - how begin/end attributes work when there are several bodies ? e.g.: XHTML-
>> IM: how to we references XHTML body ?
> A reasonable question. What do people think?

Or worse, xml:lang alternatives.  I haven't thought of a reasonable
solution, other than an XPath relative to the message element which
would default to "body", but that might be a bit of a monster.
> - how do we use begin/end attributes with <iq> stanza ? e.g. XEP-0277 
> microblog ?
> Same. What would you/other people suggest?

However, such an XPath would solve this issue as well.


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