[Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Fastening

Kevin Smith kevin.smith at isode.com
Wed Dec 11 15:20:16 UTC 2019

On 7 Sep 2019, at 14:17, Daniel Gultsch <daniel at gultsch.de> wrote:
> Am Sa., 7. Sept. 2019 um 13:05 Uhr schrieb Andrew Nenakhov
> <andrew.nenakhov at redsolution.com>:
>> Seems like a copy of XEP-0367 Message Attaching. It also shares the same problem: no explanation whatsoever on how to fetch these attachments from a Message Archive in any efficient way. Ideally, we should retrieve a message from an archive with all its attachments. We should also have some kind of notification on reconnecting that a previously received message received/updated an attachment (or attachments) while we were offline.
>> Without some kind of plan to deal with these issues, any discussion about attachments will result in half-baked XEP that can only be implemented on hardcore 'traditional' clients that enjoy a persistent connection.
> I agree that any fastening/attaching/referencing XEP with the implied
> intent of making collective retrieval from MAM possible should also
> specify (or at least be released simultaneously with a XEP that does)
> said retrieval. Both to make the intent of the XEP clear and to make
> sure that the generic mechanism really is generic enough to handle
> that.

In an ideal world, I don’t disagree with you. In this instance my aim was to get Fastening out ASAP so Reactions could be rebased on it and unblocked. But I do see archive access in my near future now.


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