[Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Fastening

JC Brand lists at opkode.com
Tue Sep 10 07:20:32 UTC 2019

Am 7. September 2019 15:03:49 MESZ schrieb Andrew Nenakhov <andrew.nenakhov at redsolution.com>:
>Seems like a copy of XEP-0367 Message Attaching. It also shares the
>problem: no explanation whatsoever on how to fetch these attachments
>from a
>Message Archive in any efficient way. Ideally, we should retrieve a
>from an archive with all its attachments. 

I agree, especially for thin (e.g. web) clients this is an issue.

If I connect and want to get the last 20 messages of a MUC, but 19 are reactions (and maybe even for a message not included in the results) then I in effect get only one showable message back.

This is already an issue with markers and receipts AFAIK (which could make use of fastening for those too).

> We should also have some kind of
>notification on reconnecting that a previously received message
>received/updated an attachment (or attachments) while we were offline.

This seems less of an issue to me since I'd in any case to a catch-up query, unless you're referring to something like the mythical "inbox" feature.

>Without some kind of plan to deal with these issues, any discussion
>attachments will result in half-baked XEP that can only be implemented
>hardcore 'traditional' clients that enjoy a persistent connection.
>чт, 5 сент. 2019 г. в 22:53, Jonas Schäfer <jonas at wielicki.name>:
>> The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP.
>> Title: Message Fastening
>> Abstract:
>> This specification defines a way for payloads on a message to be
>> marked as being logically fastened to a previous message.
>> URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/fasten.html
>> The Council will decide in the next two weeks whether to accept this
>> proposal as an official XEP.
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