[Standards] Bookmarks and autojoin issues

Philipp Hörist philipp at hoerist.com
Sun May 24 09:29:52 UTC 2020


Hi,

So whats your ideas how we can implement that?

What first comes to mind is, that 402 now can hold extended payloads in
each bookmark item.
So we just add the profile there?

and UI wise i ask the user when he joins a room to what profile he wants to
add that.

regards
Philipp


Am So., 24. Mai 2020 um 11:13 Uhr schrieb Mathieu Pasquet <
mathieui at mathieui.net>:

> On 24.05.2020 06:50, Philipp Hörist wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >The problem is there are no rules what goes into which profile.
> >
> >If i add a bookmark as a desktop client, i don't know if it should go
> into the
> >mobile profile or not.
> >And btw we try to abstract bookmarks away from the user, so managing
> profiles
> >of bookmarks for different devices is exactly not the direction i want to
> go.
> >
> >So either this can be determined automatically without user input (i
> doubt it)
> >or a simple local autojoin list where the user simply has to manually join
> >bookmarks is better in my opinion.
> >
> >Regards
> >Philipp
> >
> >
>
> Well, one easy to implement and to understand rule would be to, by
> default, create a single "default" profile and use that to effectively keep
> the current behavior of "everything is synced everywhere", unless the user
> configured it otherwise. I see this as an advanced feature and not
> something that most users would want to fiddle with (as I said, the
> issues mostly grow with the number of MUCs). The state would then be
> synced across clients referring to the same profile name.
>
> There is also a niche for client developers who could then use a
> test client with a distinct bookmarks profile without the need for a
> separate account.
>
> I have had local autojoin lists for a decade in poezio and frankly it
> is not a very good solution when not many clients support it, other
> clients abstract the bookmark management away from the user, and nothing
> is standard. You have the choice between having an unpredictable mix of
> remote bookmarks and local autojoins, or entirely disable remote bookmarks
> for the sake of sanity, which is not good either.
>
> Cheers,
> Mathieu
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