[Standards] Council Minutes 2021-01-13

Tedd Sterr teddsterr at outlook.com
Tue Jan 19 19:01:36 UTC 2021


1) Roll Call
Present: Daniel, Zash, Jonas, Dave, Georg

2) Agenda Bashing
Item 4c is found to be unnecessary, as an extra vote was overlooked.

3) Editor's Update
* Proposed XMPP Extensions:
  - DOAP usage in XMPP
  - OMEMO Media Sharing

4a) Proposed XMPP Extension: DOAP usage in XMPP - https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/doap-usage-in-xmpp.html
Jonas: [on-list]
Zash: [on-list]
Georg: +1
Dave: [on-list] (heavily leaning toward +1)
Daniel: +1

Daniel questions whether XEPs are the right format for specifying something that isn't a protocol extension - Jonas thinks it might be passable if defining how XEPs are to be used or referenced. Dave is happy for this to be an XEP, though not sure which track - possibly Procedural; Zash thinks Informational is fine; Jonas suggests Informational, as it's not a procedure of the XSF or Council.
Jonas consults the wisdom of crowds [1].

4b) Proposed XMPP Extension: OMEMO Media Sharing - https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/omemo-media-sharing.html
This was previously submitted for the Standards Track, but not accepted; is now resubmitted as Historical.
Jonas checks whether Link Mauve has the IPR agreement from Daniel to resubmit his work under a different track…
Daniel vaguely remembers his offer to move this to a different track was rejected, so accepting now would be overruling a previous Council decision.
Jonas rummages through history and finds the relevant Minutes [2] - thinks the gist is that Historical might be acceptable.
Dave feels uneasy about the URI scheme - Georg doesn't think there are ambitions to establish 'aesgcm' as a generic URI scheme - Dave expects it would still have to be registered - Georg thinks defining a non-standard URI scheme for use in a specific, strictly defined context is fair game. Dave will voice his concerns on the venerable list.

Georg: [on-list] (waiting for the XEP-0001 Task Force to make a ruling on legitimate options)
Zash: [on-list]
Daniel: [on-list]
Jonas: +1 (with any editorial fixes needed; better to have it documented than not)
Dave: [on-list]

Daniel would like to fix the example before publishing - Dave is happy to accept now and fix examples after. Jonas recommends RFC 7595 (Guidelines and Registration Procedures for URI Schemes) [3] as light bed-time reading.

5) Pending Votes
Georg, Jonas, and Zash pending on MUC Mention Notifications, expiring next week.

6) Date of Next
2021-01-20 1600 UTC

7) AOB
Dave asks Daniel whether he has formally given permission to resubmit the 'OMEMO Media sharing' proto-XEP - he has not; Dave doesn't believe it can be accepted unless and until that happens. Daniel hereby officially grants permission for Link Mauve to resubmit the proto-XEP.

7) Close
Thanks everyone.

Jonas makes a quick exit.

[1] https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2021-January/038057.html
[2] https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2018-June/035135.html
[3] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7595

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