26 Mar
2024
26 Mar
'24
6:24 a.m.
As I said earlier, some day down the road <acknowledged/> can actually be
useful:
But I could see this feature useful for something like
voice/video
messages to indicate that it has been played by the recipient. At
least,
Telegram does have such feature (not in group chats though, there it makes
no sense and would result in a lot of unwanted traffic).
But from the current sentiment I think it'll be another XEP.
On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 at 17:11, Dave Cridland <dave(a)cridland.net> wrote:
I entirely missed this, and have no understanding of
the rationale, but:
1) I'm somewhat ambivalent about removing <received/>, but it's certainly
well implemented by my anecdotological studies.
2) Removing <acknowledged/> seems OK, but I've considered various
use-cases for which an explicit, user-driven, acknowledgement is useful.
But I've never actually implemented it, so...
3) It's really not. Some clients and intermediaries need to know whether
they should expect a marker or not. No need to check this prior to sending
a <markable/>, true, but useful to track missing markers afterward.
Where was the discussion of this, and (more broadly) how does one know
what the discussion and rationale and consensus is if not on this list?
Dave.
On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 at 13:20, Daniel Gultsch <daniel(a)gultsch.de> wrote:
Version 0.5.0 of XEP-0333 (Displayed Markers
(was: Chat Markers)) has
been released.
Abstract:
This specification introduces a method to let the sender, or multiple
participants in a group chat, know that a client has displayed
messages up to a certain point.
Changelog:
* Remove <received/> to not replicate functionality.
* Remove <acknowledged/> because it was not implemented in the last 10
years and apparently is not needed.
* Remove Disco feature. Opting in via <markable/> is enough (dg)
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