17 Jul
2026
17 Jul
'26
8:52 a.m.
On Fri, Jul 17, 2026, at 8:48 AM, eevvoor via Members wrote:
On 7/17/26 4:45 PM, Kevin Smith wrote:
Sorry, but I call bullshit. Lots of people seem to be using Conversations, Snikket, and
all sorts of other apps. We haven't actively been using JABBER in software names in 20
years. You can even say "Conversations is a great Jabber app" (that's fair
use) but you don't need to use the JABBER mark in your software name.
Peter
On 17 Jul 2026, at 15:44, eevvoor via Members
<members(a)xmpp.org> wrote:
Correct. But being able to use the term "Jabber" as a dev affects the
normal people who will use the app.
If it is only abolished in the app / program's name that is already
helpful but of course it would be natural to use the term jabber in your
app's name ...
On 7/17/26 4:41 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
A normal person is not sublicensing a Jabber trademark.
/K Come on, this is a small community in which all
developers active enough to be creating a named project know how to raise issues on email
lists, in chatrooms, or via GitHub. If they send an email to a lesser-known alias, they
know where to complain, which is just what you've done.
If you want to tell a normal person to install an XMPP app it is a show stopper to say
"XMPP". THis does not have to do anything with the size of our XMPP community.