Hi all, The XSF infrastructure team is planning to move our mailman installation from a dedicated machine to a cloud service. When doing so, we also plan to delete some lists that are no longer in use or that could be replaced with chatrooms. Do we feel the need to keep this list for coordination among server operators, or could we use the operators@ chatroom instead? Peter
I've moved on from XMPP to running a car club and there's so little chat here I'm happy either way but best to drop me off the list anyway. It was great knowing you all at arms length, I hope life has and will treat you all well. Kind regards, David. - The Queen's Award for Voluntary Service — Mobile: 0782 5138 214 Email: david@banes.org https://davidbanes.com https://cleartextsystems.com https://hellfiremotorvehicle.club On 14 Oct 2024 at 17:19 +0100, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>, wrote:
Hi all,
The XSF infrastructure team is planning to move our mailman installation from a dedicated machine to a cloud service. When doing so, we also plan to delete some lists that are no longer in use or that could be replaced with chatrooms. Do we feel the need to keep this list for coordination among server operators, or could we use the operators@ chatroom instead?
Peter
Am 14.10.2024 um 18:10 schrieb Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>:
The XSF infrastructure team is planning to move our mailman installation from a dedicated machine to a cloud service. When doing so, we also plan to delete some lists that are no longer in use or that could be replaced with chatrooms. Do we feel the need to keep this list for coordination among server operators, or could we use the operators@ chatroom instead?
I would like to keep this list. Maybe not everyone has joined the MUC, maybe there might be a reason of needing a second channel to communicate, for example when there is a larger outage or similar that is preventing the use of XMPP. Additionally some topics may be better discussed via mail. My 2 cents... -- Ciao... // Web: http://blog.windfluechter.net Ingo \X/ XMPP/Jabber: ij@jhookipa.net gpg pubkey: http://www.juergensmann.de/ij_public_key.asc
On 10/14/24 10:37 AM, Ingo Jürgensmann wrote:
Am 14.10.2024 um 18:10 schrieb Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>:
The XSF infrastructure team is planning to move our mailman installation from a dedicated machine to a cloud service. When doing so, we also plan to delete some lists that are no longer in use or that could be replaced with chatrooms. Do we feel the need to keep this list for coordination among server operators, or could we use the operators@ chatroom instead?
I would like to keep this list. Maybe not everyone has joined the MUC, maybe there might be a reason of needing a second channel to communicate, for example when there is a larger outage or similar that is preventing the use of XMPP. Additionally some topics may be better discussed via mail.
Good points. Keeping this list is probably advisable. Peter
Il 14/10/2024 18:55, Peter Saint-Andre ha scritto:
On 10/14/24 10:37 AM, Ingo Jürgensmann wrote:
Am 14.10.2024 um 18:10 schrieb Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>:
The XSF infrastructure team is planning to move our mailman installation from a dedicated machine to a cloud service. When doing so, we also plan to delete some lists that are no longer in use or that could be replaced with chatrooms. Do we feel the need to keep this list for coordination among server operators, or could we use the operators@ chatroom instead?
I would like to keep this list. Maybe not everyone has joined the MUC, maybe there might be a reason of needing a second channel to communicate, for example when there is a larger outage or similar that is preventing the use of XMPP. Additionally some topics may be better discussed via mail.
Good points. Keeping this list is probably advisable.
Peter
I also agree. -- roughnecks https://woodpeckersnest.space gemini://woodpeckersnest.space
What is this about? On Mon, Oct 14, 2024, 12:55 PM Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> wrote:
On 10/14/24 10:37 AM, Ingo Jürgensmann wrote:
Am 14.10.2024 um 18:10 schrieb Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>:
The XSF infrastructure team is planning to move our mailman installation from a dedicated machine to a cloud service. When doing so, we also plan to delete some lists that are no longer in use or that could be replaced with chatrooms. Do we feel the need to keep this list for coordination among server operators, or could we use the operators@ chatroom instead?
I would like to keep this list. Maybe not everyone has joined the MUC, maybe there might be a reason of needing a second channel to communicate, for example when there is a larger outage or similar that is preventing the use of XMPP. Additionally some topics may be better discussed via mail.
Good points. Keeping this list is probably advisable.
Peter
I would like to add that the operators muc is still unusable (for some people) due to the affiliation bot being absent. I asked jonas about this already and he said he would have someone fix it, it has been a few days and it is still not fixed, nor have i been given an affiliation.
+1 On 14.10.24 18:37, Ingo Jürgensmann wrote:
Am 14.10.2024 um 18:10 schrieb Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>:
The XSF infrastructure team is planning to move our mailman installation from a dedicated machine to a cloud service. When doing so, we also plan to delete some lists that are no longer in use or that could be replaced with chatrooms. Do we feel the need to keep this list for coordination among server operators, or could we use the operators@ chatroom instead? I would like to keep this list. Maybe not everyone has joined the MUC, maybe there might be a reason of needing a second channel to communicate, for example when there is a larger outage or similar that is preventing the use of XMPP. Additionally some topics may be better discussed via mail.
My 2 cents...
On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 10:10:03 -0600 Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> wrote:
Hi all,
The XSF infrastructure team is planning to move our mailman installation from a dedicated machine to a cloud service. When doing so, we also plan to delete some lists that are no longer in use or that could be replaced with chatrooms. Do we feel the need to keep this list for coordination among server operators, or could we use the operators@ chatroom instead?
Hi Peter, As a non-contributor I don't feel I have a vote but would you mind posting the full JID of the chatroom that's supposed to replace this list? Is it public or do I need to be a part of the organization? Regards
On 10/15/24 8:01 AM, GDR! wrote:
On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 10:10:03 -0600 Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> wrote:
Hi all,
The XSF infrastructure team is planning to move our mailman installation from a dedicated machine to a cloud service. When doing so, we also plan to delete some lists that are no longer in use or that could be replaced with chatrooms. Do we feel the need to keep this list for coordination among server operators, or could we use the operators@ chatroom instead?
Hi Peter,
As a non-contributor I don't feel I have a vote but would you mind posting the full JID of the chatroom that's supposed to replace this list? Is it public or do I need to be a part of the organization?
There's a link to the "operators" chatroom here: https://xmpp.org/community/chat/ Peter
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