Hi, On Wed, 2026-11-04 at 21:33 +0000, Dave Cridland wrote:
1) Last Call XEP-0446, move to Stable. 2) Last Call XEP-0447, move to Stable. 3) Deprecate XEP-0066 (with note pointing to XEP-0447). 4) Add similar note to XEP-0385 but leave in Deferred.
I'd like to build consensus for this, so: - Does anyone object? If so, how, why, and what would fix this? - Does anyone agree with me? Can we improve the plan?
For XEP-0447 I have some pending local changes, that include a namespace bump to add extensibility for the disposition attribute. I have to double check if there was any other feedback pending, because I wanted to avoid doing more namespace bumps than necessary. I'd also like to note that OOB does not only apply to file transfers. Or more precisely, XEP-0066 specifies two things: - The jabber:iq:oob IQ is for some sort of file transfers, but nobody is implementing that - The jabber:x:oob added to messages is "used to communicate a URI to another user or application". It is specifically not about file transfers, we just have some recipient side rules to interpret those as oob in some cases. But purely from the spec, it may as well be used to communicate a Zoom link to invite someone to a call. Beside that, I do agree with the plan. On Wed, 2026-11-04 at 16:51 -0500, Stephen Paul Weber wrote:
and then SIMS becomes basically a namespace change away from SFS anyway.
You do know very well that SFS has significantly more features than SIMS, like disposition, multiple files, encryption, upload announcements and backwards compatibility for extended functionality. Marvin