[Standards] Re: UPDATED: XEP-0402 (PEP Native Bookmarks)

Hi, On Tue, 2024-08-27 at 14:18 +0000, Tedd Sterr wrote: Well, let's play the scenario where we had `autojoin` and `joined` independent. What is the expected behavior of clients? A=`autojoin`, J=`joined` Client connects: None -> Do not join room A -> Join room (`autojoin` is true) and change to A+J (because we joined now) J, A+J -> Join room (`joined` is true) Client is joined and receives update: None -> Leave (`joined` is false) A -> Leave (`joined` is false) and then join on next connect (`autojoin` is true) J, A+J -> Stay in Room Client is not joined and receives update: None -> Do not join room A -> ? Either join (and change to A+J) or ignore and join on next connect (`autojoin` is true) J, A+J -> Join As you can see, the interpretation of the `joined` attribute is that it behaves exactly as the `autojoin` attribute is defined in the updated XPE-0402. The only difference would be that `autojoin` could be interpret as only go in effect after reconnecting. `autojoin`, when true, would eventually be copied into `joined` and does not matter once `joined` is set. This seems pretty useless IMO. Why don't we just keep `autojoin` if it has effectively the same meaning as soon as the first client reconnects (which may be a few minutes later, if you have an unstable connection)? Marvin