31 May
2026
31 May
'26
11:03 p.m.
Hello Council and XEP Editors,
I would like to request reactivation of XEP-0346: Form Discovery and
Publishing.
The XEP is currently Deferred due to lack of activity. We are building
an alpha/prototype XMPP client, Tiedragon Teletyptel 2.0, and during
implementation of poll support we found that XEP-0346 is highly relevant
as a general mechanism for discovering and publishing forms.
Our current implementation is not production-ready, but we have running
code and a concrete use case:
- user-facing polls in 1:1 and MUC conversations
- form templates based on XEP-0004
- possible publication/discovery through PubSub
- accessibility and total-conversation workflows where structured forms
are useful beyond polls
We do not want to depend on a Deferred XEP as if it were stable.
Instead, we would like to help revive discussion and provide
implementation feedback from an alpha implementation.
The initial use case is poll creation and voting, but the broader need
is reusable form discovery/publishing for XMPP applications.
Would the Council / Editors be open to moving XEP-0346 back to
Experimental if we submit a substantive update or implementation notes?
If useful, I can prepare a pull request with:
- updated motivation and modern use cases
- security/privacy considerations
- relationship to XEP-0004 and XEP-0060
- implementation experience from Teletyptel 2.0
- clarification of poll-style usage without making polls the only use case
Kind regards,
Edward Tie
Tiedragon
1 Jun
1 Jun
2:48 a.m.
Le lundi 1 juin 2026, 05:03:25 heure d’été d’Europe centrale Edward Tie via
Standards a écrit :
Hello Council and XEP Editors,
I would like to request reactivation of XEP-0346: Form Discovery and
Publishing.
The XEP is currently Deferred due to lack of activity. We are building
an alpha/prototype XMPP client, Tiedragon Teletyptel 2.0, and during
implementation of poll support we found that XEP-0346 is highly relevant
as a general mechanism for discovering and publishing forms.
[SNIP]
Would the Council / Editors be open to moving XEP-0346 back to
Experimental if we submit a substantive update or implementation notes?
Hi Edward,
A XEP is automatically back to experimental if anything is done on it (even a
simple typo fix). The Deferred status is an indicator of activity and should
not be removed just for the sake of it.
However, XEP-0346 is in my opinion good to go to stable, it's up to its author
(Kev) to propose it for a Last Call.
Also please note that I have an implementation of it in Libervia, I use it for
the "shared list" feature, and the ticket tracker of the project is made with
it (https://www.goffi.org/forge/goffi/libervia-backend/tickets). The CLI frontend
has commands to manipulate this kind of lists (https://libervia.org/__b/doc/
backend/libervia-cli/list.html).
It would be nice to test your implementation against mine to check for
compatibility.
Best,
Goffi
1:52 p.m.
Hi Edward,
In addition to Goffi's process suggestions, I know of at least two server
implementations of XEP-0346, one in Isode's M-Link and one by NATO that is
a plugin for Openfire. Neither are publicly available, but it may be
worthwhile investigating whether this actually conform to the
specification, since I believe they are interoperable.
Kev Smith, the author of FDP, works for Isode so that side of things should
be easy.
Dave.
On Mon, 1 Jun 2026 at 04:06, Edward Tie via Standards <standards(a)xmpp.org>
wrote:
Hello Council and XEP Editors,
I would like to request reactivation of XEP-0346: Form Discovery and
Publishing.
The XEP is currently Deferred due to lack of activity. We are building
an alpha/prototype XMPP client, Tiedragon Teletyptel 2.0, and during
implementation of poll support we found that XEP-0346 is highly relevant
as a general mechanism for discovering and publishing forms.
Our current implementation is not production-ready, but we have running
code and a concrete use case:
- user-facing polls in 1:1 and MUC conversations
- form templates based on XEP-0004
- possible publication/discovery through PubSub
- accessibility and total-conversation workflows where structured forms
are useful beyond polls
We do not want to depend on a Deferred XEP as if it were stable.
Instead, we would like to help revive discussion and provide
implementation feedback from an alpha implementation.
The initial use case is poll creation and voting, but the broader need
is reusable form discovery/publishing for XMPP applications.
Would the Council / Editors be open to moving XEP-0346 back to
Experimental if we submit a substantive update or implementation notes?
If useful, I can prepare a pull request with:
- updated motivation and modern use cases
- security/privacy considerations
- relationship to XEP-0004 and XEP-0060
- implementation experience from Teletyptel 2.0
- clarification of poll-style usage without making polls the only use case
Kind regards,
Edward Tie
Tiedragon
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