[JDEV] JavaJabber Server Docs

Jay Lorenzo jlorenzo at uswest.net
Mon Jul 9 16:09:21 CDT 2001

I hear what you guys are saying, and that makes sense to me, particullarly
if the IETF path is ever revisited.

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From: jdev-admin at jabber.org [mailto:jdev-admin at jabber.org]On Behalf Of
David Waite
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 1:06 PM
To: jdev at jabber.org
Subject: Re: [JDEV] JavaJabber Server Docs

I would actually agree here. Nothing like a radically different
implementation to point out things which are implementation-specific
which were taken for granted. One of the fears I had was that the
'newer' server developer would hit a lot of problems trying to implement
something like 'presence' based on existing docs, and implementation
just based on docs would create something which a lot of clients which
have hacked against the implementation would not agree with. It would be
a really bad if trying to do a different implementation caused them to
get flak for implementing things in an incompatible way.

Luckily, I believe that Jabelin is considering starting a new server
implementation and architecture themselves, meaning that it won't
necessarily be 'us vs. them' when it comes to something that is
implemented differently due to lack of specs. I really hope that people
doing the actual implementation work are disciplined enough to document
things they misunderstand :-)

-David Waite

Iain Shigeoka wrote:

>--- Jay Lorenzo <jlorenzo at uswest.net> wrote:
>>One thing I'd like to throw out here is the possibility of using a
>>design with the Jabelin folks. I think we may be best served by
>>participating in the design process with the Jabelin folks, which I
>>is just starting this process. We may want to consider having a 'subsig'
>>under Jabelin, using an 'org.jabber' namespace.
>I actually think it would better serve the Jabber
>community if the two servers were developed
>independently.  One of the more interesting things
>I'd be looking for is what is implementaton specific
>and what is standard Jabber.  This has been
>exceedingly difficult to determine with just jabberd.
>Something very different in implmentation could be
>extremely useful...
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