[JDEV] "Lotus sametime" = really another IM system in this world?
Michael F Lin
MFLIN at us.ibm.com
Mon Aug 12 16:27:00 CDT 2002
Disclaimer: I'm not on the Sametime team and in no way speak in any
official capacity whatsoever about it. Please do not quote me on anything
in this e-mail, lest you get me into trouble.
I've heard around the office that Lotus Sametime controls about 60% of the
corporate desktop instant messaging market (the same market that Jabber,
Inc. plays in). From what I understand, it's managing to do well against
other offerings at least partly because of its encryption and server-side
logging facilities, which are mission-critical for IT departments in the
financial sector, for example. (Server-side logging seems unsavory to us
in the open-source community, but it's a legal requirement for many
Also note that Sametime is not just instant messaging and presence (or
"awareness" as it is called), but it is also an entire e-meeting platform
with audio/video conferencing, whiteboarding, etc.
Sametime 3 and up is moving to a SIP-based protocol.
It is nice that the Sametime client talks to AIM because Lotus/IBM has an
agreement with AOLTW. Other than that, the client program is nothing to
sneeze at, particularly compared to the slick UIs you see in MSN. But
Sametime provably scales (very few deployments are going to compare to its
deployment to 300,000 IBM desktops) and it integrates with other Lotus/IBM
offerings, particularly Notes/Domino and WebSphere Portal Server.
Mattias Campe <mattias.campe at rug.ac.be>
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08/12/2002 07:11 AM
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Subject: [JDEV] "Lotus sametime" = really another IM system in this world?
while sb told me about SIMP (see previous post: "SIMP = open soure
concurrent for Jabber?") another one told me about "Lotus sametime" from
Why didn't they user Jabber for it? They did develop their own Jabber
client didn't they:
http://www.jabbercentral.org/clients/view.php?id=984618555 Or is "Lotus
sametime" actually based on Jabber? And if it is based on Jabber, is it
compatible with it, so that I can chat with "Lotus sametimers"?
If you want to have a cool demo about "Lotus sametime", you should check
out http://media.lotus.com/appdev/sametime/demos/demo.html I must
honestly say that I've never seen such a demo about Jabber and the
whiteboard seems cool (but I thought Jabberzilla has one too)...
Plz let me know what you know about "Lotus sametime".
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