[JDEV] Thoughts on AOL

Thomas Muldowney temas at box5.net
Tue Jan 8 19:01:34 CST 2002

If I go and open 10,000 http requests to your machine is that ok?  What
if I send about 100+msgs/second through your mail server?  What if I
browse your web site and use your resources, but totally ignore the
terms of service that you have posted?  (Did you notice the terms of
service link on the bottom of all aol pages?)  And technically they do
feel the use of unauthorized software is a problem, because they feel
they own your username and screenname, and we're making unauthorized or
licensed use of that information.  Plus we're allowing for it's use in
an uncontrolled and unrestricted manner, which could lead to an increase
in password theft.  All of which they have large problems with.
Personally, I'm not seeing the double standard you are suggesting.


On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 06:35:40PM -0600, James Widman wrote:
> Thomas Muldowney wrote:
> > It is their network, and their resources, and I feel we need to respect
> >that.  
> >
> I tend to agree, *but*.... anyone who has an internet connection can 
> send email to AOL users; anyone can browse through web pages hosted by 
> AOL; further, AOL/TW would certainly *like* everyone on the internet to 
> chose the AIM client for their instant messaging needs.  It's not like 
> they're not prepared for a large number connections to Oscar (and 
> correct me if I'm wrong, but connecting with "unauthorized software" has 
> never even been a legal issue -- i.e., jabber people didn't get cease & 
> desist orders, they just got met with unfriendly engineering and IP 
> blocking, right?).
> It's just that they have this crappy double standard about how people 
> are allowed to use the resources that they already offer up to the 
> non-paying public, and it seems that a lot of people here (myself 
> included) are wondering if we should respect *that* at all.
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Thomas Muldowney
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