[JDEV] Transports&contacts

M.Kiesel maqi at jabberstudio.org
Fri Jan 10 04:48:22 CST 2003

On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Matthias Wimmer wrote:

>> Normal s10n using immediate subscribed packets pushes the contact to
>> the user's roster without further actions.
> I think you shouldn't send subscribed presences but subscribe presences.

This would not enable the transport to push contact names as well plus
would confront the user with dozens of subscribe requests once he gets
registered with a transport that does auto-import.

> Being able to push contacts on the roster of a user with subscribed
> packets as been considered a bug by some people and it is not part of
> the specs that you can do this.

Well, it all comes down to "how to do good and reliable auto-import
then?". We of course can stick to the original specs, implicitely saying
"transports are unnecessary and bad" - and therefore making Jabber an
unattractive system for most users. Or, as I would prefer, implement some
things that don't break the specs (as they are not forbidden at the moment
:-) and simplify usage a lot.

BTW I bet there are other applications for contact pushing, not only
legacy transports.


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