[JDEV] Re:YAHOO ISSUES

SARADHI uvnpsaradhi at yahoo.com
Sun Jan 26 10:37:53 CST 2003


I have seen a lot of mails about yahoo & Jabber. I couldnt understand why peole have difficulties in connecting to yahoo and I am using jabber for the last 2 years . I never had any probmelm.
and now itself wiht the latest Tranport installed in my jabber server and it works fine and I can communicate with all my MSN, AOL , ICQ and Yahoo buddies.
Couldnt understand whats the disucssion is all about.HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
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Today's Topics:

1. Re: RE: [JDEV] yahoo issues anyone? (Neil Stevens)
2. RE: RE: [JDEV] yahoo issues anyone? (Lyn Bartram)
3. Re: RE: [JDEV] yahoo issues anyone? (Robert Sanders)
4. Re: RE: [JDEV] yahoo issues anyone? (Richard Dobson)
5. Re: RE: [JDEV] yahoo issues anyone? (Richard Dobson)

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Message: 1
From: Neil Stevens 
To: jdev at jabber.org
Subject: Re: RE: [JDEV] yahoo issues anyone?
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:16:19 -0800
Reply-To: jdev at jabber.org

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On Friday January 24, 2003 01:35, Richard Dobson wrote:
> > On Thursday January 23, 2003 04:38, Marc Blank wrote:
> > > The three companies - Yahoo, AOL, and MSN - are the 800-pound
> > > gorillas of the internet. In their minds, it's a life or death
> > > struggle, and every bit of exclusivity provides an edge, no matter
> > > how slight.
> > >
> > > Yahoo abandoning YIM for Jabber is about as likely as Apple
> > > abandoning the Mac OS in favor of Linux... ;-)
> >
> > Yeah, they already moved to FreeBSD.
>
> Urm no actually its MacOSX which runs on Darwin which uses the Mach
> kernel, its not FreeBSD.

Nobody has a sense of humor anymore. :-)

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Message: 2
From: Lyn Bartram 
To: "'jdev at jabber.org'" 
Subject: RE: RE: [JDEV] yahoo issues anyone?
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 13:30:53 -0800
Reply-To: jdev at jabber.org

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The Mach kernel, which came out of SMU, is a small computer version of the
BSD kernel. 
So it may not be FreeBSD, but it essentially BSD ( as opposed to other
flavours of Unix).

--lyn
(Unix ROCKS :)

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Dobson [mailto:richard at dobson-i.net]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 1:35 AM
To: jdev at jabber.org
Subject: Re: RE: [JDEV] yahoo issues anyone?


> On Thursday January 23, 2003 04:38, Marc Blank wrote:
> > The three companies - Yahoo, AOL, and MSN - are the 800-pound gorillas
> > of the internet. In their minds, it's a life or death struggle, and
> > every bit of exclusivity provides an edge, no matter how slight.
> >
> > Yahoo abandoning YIM for Jabber is about as likely as Apple abandoning
> > the Mac OS in favor of Linux... ;-)
>
> Yeah, they already moved to FreeBSD.

Urm no actually its MacOSX which runs on Darwin which uses the Mach kernel,
its not FreeBSD.


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The Mach kernel, which came out of SMU, is a small computer version of  the BSD kernel. 

So it may not be FreeBSD, but it essentially BSD ( as opposed to other flavours of Unix).




--lyn

(Unix ROCKS :)




-----Original Message-----

From: Richard Dobson [mailto:richard at dobson-i.net]

Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 1:35 AM

To: jdev at jabber.org

Subject: Re: RE: [JDEV] yahoo issues anyone?






> On Thursday January 23, 2003 04:38, Marc Blank wrote:

> > The three companies - Yahoo, AOL, and MSN - are the 800-pound gorillas

> > of the internet.  In their minds, it's a life or death struggle, and

> > every bit of exclusivity provides an edge, no matter how slight.

> >

> > Yahoo abandoning YIM for Jabber is about as likely as Apple abandoning

> > the Mac OS in favor of Linux... ;-)

>

> Yeah, they already moved to FreeBSD.




Urm no actually its MacOSX which runs on Darwin which uses the Mach kernel,

its not FreeBSD.






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Message: 3
From: "Robert Sanders" 
To: 
Subject: Re: RE: [JDEV] yahoo issues anyone?
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:14:53 -0500
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RE: RE: [JDEV] yahoo issues anyone?lbartram at colligo.com wrote:

> The Mach kernel, which came out of SMU, is a small computer version of
the BSD kernel.
> So it may not be FreeBSD, but it essentially BSD ( as opposed to other
flavours of Unix).

I'm afraid you're a little confused. Mach was a microkernel research
project which did, in various ways, incorporate large parts of the BSD
kernel to provide Unix functionality. However, it was most definitely not
Unix at its core. That was just a "personality" layered on top. Mach has
also supported personalities based upon Linux, OSF/1, NextStep (basically
BSD 4.2), the Hurd (which is quite different from Unix), and no doubt quite
a few research operating systems of which I've never heard.

regards,
-- Robert

--
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-- Slaughtermatic, Steve Aylett


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Message: 4
From: "Richard Dobson" 
To: 
Subject: Re: RE: [JDEV] yahoo issues anyone?
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 15:41:03 -0000
Reply-To: jdev at jabber.org

> > > > Yahoo abandoning YIM for Jabber is about as likely as Apple
> > > > abandoning the Mac OS in favor of Linux... ;-)
> > >
> > > Yeah, they already moved to FreeBSD.
> >
> > Urm no actually its MacOSX which runs on Darwin which uses the Mach
> > kernel, its not FreeBSD.
>
> Nobody has a sense of humor anymore. :-)

How does saying Apple have moved to FreeBSD when they haven't classify as
humour????

Richard


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Message: 5
From: "Richard Dobson" 
To: 
Subject: Re: RE: [JDEV] yahoo issues anyone?
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 15:50:29 -0000
Reply-To: jdev at jabber.org

RE: RE: [JDEV] yahoo issues anyone?Actually the Mach kernel came out of a
research project at CMU (Carnegie Mellon University) not SMU, and as has
already been said is not just for BSD but is used in a lot of other systems,
but yes coming back to the main point Darwin is based on BSD/Mach just as
FreeBSD is based on BSD but that still does not mean MacOSX is FreeBSD, its
not.

Anyway I think thats enough of this argument ;), if anyone still wants to
argue about this I suggest we take it off list or that you do some googling.

Mach project website for anyone interested:
http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/project/mach/public/www/mach.html
http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.edu/project/mach/public/www/overview.html

Richard

----- Original Message -----
From: Lyn Bartram
To: 'jdev at jabber.org'
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 9:30 PM
Subject: RE: RE: [JDEV] yahoo issues anyone?


The Mach kernel, which came out of SMU, is a small computer version of the
BSD kernel.
So it may not be FreeBSD, but it essentially BSD ( as opposed to other
flavours of Unix).
--lyn
(Unix ROCKS :)
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Dobson [mailto:richard at dobson-i.net]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 1:35 AM
To: jdev at jabber.org
Subject: Re: RE: [JDEV] yahoo issues anyone?


> On Thursday January 23, 2003 04:38, Marc Blank wrote:
> > The three companies - Yahoo, AOL, and MSN - are the 800-pound gorillas
> > of the internet. In their minds, it's a life or death struggle, and
> > every bit of exclusivity provides an edge, no matter how slight.
> >
> > Yahoo abandoning YIM for Jabber is about as likely as Apple abandoning
> > the Mac OS in favor of Linux... ;-)
>
> Yeah, they already moved to FreeBSD.
Urm no actually its MacOSX which runs on Darwin which uses the Mach kernel,
its not FreeBSD.


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