[jdev] Gaim and gnomemeeting using jabber
richard at dobson-i.net
Wed Dec 1 11:06:00 CST 2004
>> Urm as far as I read it the starter of this topic wants to have a
>> specific functionaility of being able to express voip-presence, not
>> simply the capability.
> Capability is disco.. wether it's enabled or not you can express perfectly
> with 115. Exactly as in the orginal proposal of the author. Without
??? Not sure I understand what you are talking about here, are you saying
voip-presence can be done using JEP-115 cleanly and inline with the spirit
> He nowhere stated that do-not-disturb could not be expressed using normal
> presence (since this is bundled with the URI in his orginal proposal). In
> fact, he later said something like "away for VoIP does not always mean
> away for IM, but away for IM always means away for VoIP". In his original
> proposal this already worked.
Urm yes he did, infact he specifically said that the voip-presence cannot be
guessed from your IM presence, thus the need to have the voip-presence
separately specified using pubsub, I quote:
"No: when I'm DnD for IM, then certainly I'm DnD for VoIP (also known as
"away"). But when I'm in a voip call, I'm certainly still able to read
IM messages: this is a presence information, and it can't be guessed
from the IM presence."
> You jumped ahead with demanding pubsub and disco and who knows what,
> which I'm glad you dropped now.
I havent dropped it you have obviously just misunderstood what I have said
throughout, I have and always said pubsub was for solving the voip-presence
(Task 3) problem which is still the only way I can see it being solved
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