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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mats Bengtsson [mailto:matben at privat.utfors.se]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 8:31 AM
> To: jdev at jabber.org
> Subject: Re: [jdev] Whiteboard.
> See spec at:
> > How does SVG deal with embedded pixmaps? I think that the
> ability to
> > insert a screen capture in the whiteboard is essential.
> > On Sunday 06 June 2004 10:54, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
> > > Agree completely. As said before, the subset of SVG
> called Tiny SVG
> > > (SVGT) is the more likely candidate. No need to invent
> one ourselves.
> > > BUT, even SVGT is really large, and a complete
> implementation very
> > > demanding. SVG is, of course, targeted to static documents, which
> > > means they can do editing on the xml document itself. We
> cannot do
> > > that since we only have a stream of xml floating back and forth.
> > > This introduces a number of complications, editing
> commands, synchronization etc.
> > > The actual drawing is handled with SVG(T), but we need to
> add extra
> > > elements for editing at least. Also, every element must
> be uniquely
> > > identifiable, so we need to add an id tag. And the
> > >
> > > Also, SVG doesn't add any default bindings to elements,
> but they all
> > > have to be defined in the document using scripts, like moving and
> > > other editing... We, on the other hand, already know we have a
> > > drawing tool, and therefore expects some standard
> bindings for moving, scaling etc.
> > > Only if some nonstandard bindings are necessary for particular
> > > functionality, additional scripts must be supplied. This
> raises more
> > > questions usw...
> > >
> > > There are no newlines in SVG, but we expect to have
> multiline text.
> > > Problems.
> > >
> > > Well, just some thoughts. If someone is willing to put
> some effort
> > > into this, I'm willing to continue with my experimental
> > > implementation in the Coccinella client.
> > >
> > > Mats
> > >
> > > > On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 05:15, Rodolfo Gonzalez Gonzalez wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > is there any active whiteboard JEP?... I found out
> that JEP-10
> > > > > was such a JEP, but was obsoleted (?). Any effort in
> this sense,
> > > > > apart from Coccinella?.
> > > >
> > > > There was one other client (Neos) which had implemented
> > > > Whiteboarding (so perhaps some effort towards standardisation
> > > > wouldn't be a bad idea, now that there are at least two working
> > > > clients...)
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