[jdev] Google Summer of Code

Patrick Dalla Bernardina patrick at jfes.trf2.gov.br
Wed Jun 15 10:19:44 CDT 2005

Does anybody know about implementations of workflow using jabber protocol?

Richard Dobson wrote:

>> You're right, but regardless of scaleability and efficiency, it's still
>> defining more or less the same thing which was already defined in 
>> JEP-0070.
>> The title of JEP-0070 pretty much reads as exactly what JEP-0101 does.
>> It could have been co-authored or something to merge the two ideas so
>> that it would work either way. :-)
> It might have but I was working on JEP-0101 long before JEP-0070 
> actually came out, and I did submit it long before the date it 
> actually says on it as it took a while and a couple of attempts to get 
> through to Peter, ive got a feeling it might even have been before 
> JEP-0070 came out that I started trying to submit it.
>> Actually, I'm not entirely convinced that JEP-0070 requires a Jabber
>> server to be embedded in the web server.  The same protocol would work
>> with only a client embedded in the server, just like existing web sites
>> don't require an embedded email server to send email confirmations.
> Sure using the word "server" was probably the wrong term to use, but 
> it does require some kind of jabber "component" or other to be tied 
> into the webserver for it to work.
>> It's a little inefficient, yes.  It's not so conceptually perfect, 
>> because
>> it did require the user confirming the message, rather than having 
>> anything
>> automated... but I do think the two could have been merged somehow.
> Maybe so but im not sure how as the author of the other spec seemed to 
> want to go about it in an entirely different way which was not really 
> compatible with how I needed it to work (I use a version of this spec 
> in production and had been before either protocol came out), all I was 
> doing was documenting a method I use that works very well. After 
> JEP-0070 came out I considered implementing that instead but it 
> wouldnt have worked very well in my situation for the reasons already 
> outlined and since they do go about it in two fundamentally different 
> ways I didnt see the problem at the time with releasing my spec too, I 
> thought it might come in useful for someone.
> Richard
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