[jdev] Google Summer of Code
Patrick Dalla Bernardina
patrick at jfes.trf2.gov.br
Wed Jun 15 10:19:44 CDT 2005
Does anybody know about implementations of workflow using jabber protocol?
Richard Dobson wrote:
>> You're right, but regardless of scaleability and efficiency, it's still
>> defining more or less the same thing which was already defined in
>> The title of JEP-0070 pretty much reads as exactly what JEP-0101 does.
>> It could have been co-authored or something to merge the two ideas so
>> that it would work either way. :-)
> It might have but I was working on JEP-0101 long before JEP-0070
> actually came out, and I did submit it long before the date it
> actually says on it as it took a while and a couple of attempts to get
> through to Peter, ive got a feeling it might even have been before
> JEP-0070 came out that I started trying to submit it.
>> Actually, I'm not entirely convinced that JEP-0070 requires a Jabber
>> server to be embedded in the web server. The same protocol would work
>> with only a client embedded in the server, just like existing web sites
>> don't require an embedded email server to send email confirmations.
> Sure using the word "server" was probably the wrong term to use, but
> it does require some kind of jabber "component" or other to be tied
> into the webserver for it to work.
>> It's a little inefficient, yes. It's not so conceptually perfect,
>> it did require the user confirming the message, rather than having
>> automated... but I do think the two could have been merged somehow.
> Maybe so but im not sure how as the author of the other spec seemed to
> want to go about it in an entirely different way which was not really
> compatible with how I needed it to work (I use a version of this spec
> in production and had been before either protocol came out), all I was
> doing was documenting a method I use that works very well. After
> JEP-0070 came out I considered implementing that instead but it
> wouldnt have worked very well in my situation for the reasons already
> outlined and since they do go about it in two fundamentally different
> ways I didnt see the problem at the time with releasing my spec too, I
> thought it might come in useful for someone.
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