[jdev] Best way to monitor XMPP servers

Tobias Markmann tmarkmann at googlemail.com
Tue Sep 19 17:10:21 CDT 2006


That sounds okay for me. Even if the problem is similar in my eyes to i.e.
Google's caching feature since I don't believe they ask all webmaster
whether they are allowed to mirror their pages or not. I'll also extend the
monitoring part to keep the accounts vCard with up to date information what
the bot is doing and a JID of mine. So they contact me and I'll keep them
out of the monitoring program and for new accounts I'll ask before.

But back to the initial topic. Any ideas on monitoring XMPP network which
aren't mentioned yet?

On 9/19/06, Matthias Wimmer <m at tthias.eu> wrote:
>
> Hi Tobias!
>
>
> I would suggest you as well, that you ask the administrators of the
> servers you are monitoring if they allow you to do so.
>
> My personal view, I am NO lawyer: If you are logging in to an internet
> service, you will accept the terms of service of this internet service.
> These terms of service may be either implicit or explicit.
> If the terms of service are explicit, than you should be able to see
> them on the servers web-site. If a server is listed on a list of public
> servers, I would presume, that you have at least the implicit right to
> use that service as a natural person for private usage for the purpose
> the IM server is operated as (exchanging messages and presence) as long
> as you are not noticed about anything else.
>
> I would not imply the right to do monitoring on a server if you are not
> explicitly authorized to do so.
>
>
> Matthias
>
> Tobias Markmann schrieb:
> > Some days ago someone pointed me to a post on the jadmin maling list
> > [1]. What they are talking about are the accounts that my monitoring
> > software have created for monitoring login times and server features on
> > each server. Then I noticed that stpeter responded to that[2] and said
> > that there could be a better way to do that. My question is:
> >
> > Do you know a better way and if so, what is the better way?
> >
> > The way has to enable the following tests:
> >
> >     * login time
> >     * discover server's version, features and services
> >     * s2s message time (how long does a message take from j.org
> >       <http://j.org> to j.net <http://j.net>, from j.org <http://j.org>
> >       to myjabber.net <http://myjabber.net> and so on)
> >
> >
> > [1] http://mailman.jabber.org/pipermail/jadmin/2006-August/024275.html
> > [2] http://mailman.jabber.org/pipermail/jadmin/2006-August/024289.html
> > <http://mailman.jabber.org/pipermail/jadmin/2006-August/024289.html>
> >
> > regards,
> > Tobias
>
>
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